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- From: davidsen@ariel.crd.GE.COM (william E Davidsen)
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- Subject: Re: No, don't (Was: Re: eschew moderated alt newsgroups)
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- Date: 21 Jan 93 17:12:16 GMT
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- In article <2240@blue.cis.pitt.edu>, tjw@vms.cis.pitt.edu writes:
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- | If one is going to be a moderator or a system admin, one has to learn to:
- |
- | A) Have a sense of humor and
- | B) Just say NO! (or my personal favorite: "Tough!")
- |
- | This is all much ado about absolutely nothing. Jonathan should never have
- | blown this up into such a big deal. He got himself baited into this flame
- | war. This is what happened to him in AFU as well. He must learn to say no.
- | Butting heads (which is NOT the same as BEING a BUTThead) only weakens a
- | moderator's postition.
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- IMHO JK lacks (a) and is also sometimes deficient in (c) "moderator
- should work at getting the job done, not play roadblock and look for
- excuses to reject stuff because of some tiny deviation from the
- guidelines." The are *guidelines* not written in stone by a deity!
-
- I think JK has been doing an acceptable job in general, but he's
- lacking in tact, rigid, and unwilling (in my experience) to admit being
- wrong, or even that he might be wrong. He seems to enjoy some dubious
- high moral ground, and some of his postings and personal mail are
- arrogant, condescending, pompous and argumentative. He sometimes lacks
- the social skills which would make things go smoothly.
-
- If there were a person willing and able to do the job, who had more
- adequate social skills, I'd favor dumping a change. As it is, his
- technical execution of the job is acceptable, and no one seems ready to
- step forward and do the work both competently and pleasantly.
-
- Given a choice between nasty competence and pleasant ineffectuality, I
- reluctanly choose competence.
-
- I think it's too bad that a person who's contribution to the net (and
- I'm not denying there is one) is bureaucratic would not expend a little
- effort to assist someone who contributes code, expertise, and
- organizational skill to the net. Of course I think Jef should be able to
- deal this better, too.
-
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- bill davidsen, GE Corp. R&D Center; Box 8; Schenectady NY 12345
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