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- From: Simon.N.McRae@dartmouth.edu (Simon N McRae)
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- Subject: A point well missed ...
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- Date: 28 Jan 93 18:18:17 GMT
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- In article <C1JuM7.6zB@darkside.osrhe.uoknor.edu>
- bil@okcforum.osrhe.uoknor.edu (Bill Conner) writes:
-
- > If
- > atheists are veritable paragons of reason, the intellectual elite, the
- > most rational of people, why do they get so hot when someone challenges their
- > faith?
-
- You are annoying. You initiate this thread with a direct
- confrontation, that manages at once to show an expansive lack of
- generosity and a thinly masked invective, and then you pounce when the
- responses aren't obsequious. Understand something, Bill: I don't get
- hot when someone challenges my "faith" (a poor choice of words on your
- part), rather I get frustrated with dirty play.
-
- > My point is
- > that we are all born into the same world with pretty much the same set
- > of attributes; it seems ridiculous to pretend that some "special"
- > people have an advantage, which in the case of the atheists who have
- > responded to this posting, is exactly what is being implied.
-
- I've read the posts, and I cannot see where anyone has implied a
- "special" advantage. As for your own implication that we are all born
- with the same _weltanschauung_, I'd have to disagree strongly. We are
- all born with vastly different minds and attributes that contribute to
- the many approaches we all take to the world. If not, how do you
- explain why some people are lemmings and others are mules?
-
- The responders to your post have merely suggested that their own
- analytics do not lead them to acceptance of god. How is this different
- from your inability to accept the Upanisads or Chinese Buddhism? Are
- you also implying for yourself some special status? Why has god shown
- you the light, and not the rest of us?
-
- > In my
- > experience, skepticism follows belief else of what are you skeptical?
-
- Did you ever believe in Lamarckian evolution? If not, how can you now
- be so skeptical about it?
-
- In my experience, skepticism usually does not follow belief. More
- importantly, however, there are no requirements that it should. You
- ask, "of what are you skeptical," I say, of anything that doesn't jive
- with my experience or understanding. There's a lot more out there to
- be skeptical of than just my own once-held beliefs.
-
- > why did you
- > change, and why atheism?
-
- I was never not an atheist. I shouldn't presume if I were you.
-
- > Claiming to be a skeptical person begs the
- > question it seems.
-
- And claiming to be a believer doesn't?
-
-
- Simon.
-