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- From: bobbe@vice.ICO.TEK.COM (Robert Beauchaine)
- Newsgroups: alt.atheism
- Subject: Re: Why God is Hiding
- Keywords: Why God is Hiding
- Message-ID: <11211@vice.ICO.TEK.COM>
- Date: 26 Jan 93 00:37:41 GMT
- References: <C1Dzv5.Frs@news.cso.uiuc.edu>
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- In article <C1Dzv5.Frs@news.cso.uiuc.edu> skillian@ux4.cso.uiuc.edu (Seth James Killian) writes:
- >
- >
- > To accord with the
- > preservation of free will, any God could not allow his own existence
- > to be provable with formal logic. If he were so provable, humankind
- > would not have any choice (the critical reason for our creation) but
- > to believe in God, thus undermining the nature of our freedom to choose.
-
- Only if god's definition of free will includes the clause that no
- person be allowed to prove his existence. If this is indeed
- god's definition, then he has had a radical change of heart since
- the Exodus, where burning bushes, bloody rivers, pillars of fire
- and such were commonplace.
-
- I would find it very difficult to excercise my freedom to not
- believe in god if I were faced with the same proponderance of
- evidence as the ancient Israelites. Likewise if I had seen Jesus
- raise Lazarus from the dead, walk on water, and feed a crowd of
- 5000.
-
- So whence comes the dichotomy? Where was this arbitrary line
- drawn that allowed certain folks to witness god directly, and those
- of us now who must believe on faith alone? And what if I know
- with certainity that god exists? This does not violate my free
- will to choose to follow him. I could still spit in his eye
- and declare I would rather be with Satan, as apparently 1/3 of
- the angels did at one time. Was their free will violated?
-
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- Bob Beauchaine bobbe@vice.ICO.TEK.COM
-
- "Look, I tried the cat experiment. On the third trial, the cat was
- dead. On each of the subsequent 413 trials, it remained dead. Am I
- doing something wrong?"
- James Nicoll
-
- Q. How many Heisenbergs does it take to screw in a light bulb?
- A. If you know the number, you don't know where the light bulb is!
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