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- From: I3150101@dbstu1.rz.tu-bs.de (Benedikt Rosenau)
- Subject: Re: Evolution implied by the Bible
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- Date: Fri, 22 Jan 1993 18:14:57 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan19.035309.21434@digi.lonestar.org>
- gpalo@digi.lonestar.org (Gerry Palo) writes:
-
- >
- >To check its veracity also requires a thought, which would have to be
- >a product of chemical reactions.
- >
- >More important, "chemical reaction" is itself a thought.
- >
- >This doesn't prove the existence of God, however. It does point to
- >problems with the idea that thought (and consciousness) arise out of
- >matter. And it points to, not thoughts, but thinking as being primary.
- >Even the division of the world into subject and object is the outcome
- >of thinking.
- >
-
- IMO, people identify with their conscious state. So far so deep :-)
-
- But many people do not like to see them or better, the very essence
- of them, as the product of chemical reactions/physical processes,
- because it is so damn apersonal. There is nothing that gives the process
- of identification with it the very notion of being special/not the
- surrounding that is the base of identification.
-
- In other words, I or rather *feeling of being myself* is nothing
- tailor made?
-
- However, I do not identify myself much with me as I was twenty
- years ago, so I would expect my soul, or whatever introduced
- consciousness, to have changed. Few of the theories of souls say
- it the same way, so I reject them for that reason. And then the
- theories seem to get their explanatory power (awkward term) from
- their materialistic parts. Soul is not necessary, it just gives
- them more emotional appeal.
-
- If there is a better one, I would be interested.
- Benedikt
-