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- From: bskendig@netcom.com (Brian Kendig)
- Newsgroups: alt.atheism
- Subject: Re: Let's try these proofs
- Message-ID: <1993Jan22.172946.29855@netcom.com>
- Date: 22 Jan 93 17:29:46 GMT
- References: <1993Jan21.222614.119787@marshall.wvnet.edu>
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- yea027@marshall.wvnet.edu writes:
- >
- > Would you believe a man if he tells you that there is a
- > store which is running smoothly but has no salesman,
- >storekeeper or someone to look after it? Or would you
- >believe him if he told you that the chair in front of you
- >assumed its present form all by itself?
-
- Would you believe a man if he tells you that there is a river which
- flows all by itself, without anybody turning a crank or running a pump
- to make the water flow along?
-
- > Now, if there is no way to persuade you that an
- >ordinary store could run without a storekeeper or a
- > salesman, or that a chair could assume its form without a
- >carpenter's skill, could you possibly accept the thesis that
- > the universe is without a creator or master?
-
- And if there were no way no persuade you that a river requires a
- person running a water pump to make it flow, could you possibly accept
- the thesis that everything else in the universe _does_?
-
- [ other arguments deleted for now, because I haven't the time to
- respond to them properly -- read the alt.atheism faq! ]
-
- > Now when God is the sovereign of the universe, is it
- >not logical that you submit willingly to His commands and
- > model your life according to the way of life He set for
- >mankind? You can find that way of life explained fully in
- >Islam.
-
- This is something I've never understood. How can you make the jump
- from "there must be some sort of Prime Mover that is the source of
- existence" to "God exists in precisely the way explained in this
- book"?
-
- --
- _/_/_/ Brian Kendig Je ne suis fait comme aucun
- /_/_/ bskendig@netcom.com de ceux que j'ai vus; j'ose croire
- _/_/ n'etre fait comme aucun de ceux qui existent.
- / Nolite te bastardes Si je ne vaux pas mieux, au moins je suis autre.
- / carborundorum. -- Rousseau
-