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- From: eradm@wbst845e.xerox.com (Erik Radmall)
- Newsgroups: alt.atheism
- Subject: Re: religion in general
- Message-ID: <1993Jan20.163622.17281@spectrum.xerox.com>
- Date: 20 Jan 93 16:36:22 GMT
- References: <1993Jan20.105527.19729@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au>
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- In article 19729@monu6.cc.monash.edu.au, darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au (Fred Rice) writes:
- > In <radauto.727421735@cwis> radauto@cwis.unomaha.edu (Theresa J Radin) writes:
- >
- > >But the BIG arguement against religion is the simple fact that
- > >there are so damn many.
- >
- > Not really. Several people, throughout history in fact, have the
- > viewpoint that the essential truths within various "authentic" religions
- > are one. This, I understand, was a viewpoint held by several mystics in
- > the past. For example, the Sufi Al-Jili wrote:
- >
- > "The [gnostics] are the investigators of the truth upon whom God has
- > constructed the foundations of existence. The spheres of the worlds
- > rotate about them. They are the centre of God's attention in the world,
- > nay, the centre of God's [theophany] in existence.... God has erected
- > the foundation of religion, nay, the foundation of all religions upon
- > the ground of their gnosis." [1]
- >
- > By "gnostic" here is meant those who have direct knowledge of God, also
- > sometimes called mystics (although "mystic" is less well-defined).
- >
-
- [stuff deleted]
-
- > Another topic relevant to this is the unity of purpose of various
- > mythologies, as expounded in the work of Joseph Campbell.
-
- I might add that Carl Jung is excellent reading in a slightly more
- psychological vein. Arthur Schopenhauer is also good reading if you
- feel like twisting your brain a little. He presents a view of both
- Buddhism and the Hindu Upanishads in a very Western way. By the way,
- it seems from the reasearch I've done on the subject, that Islam (Sufism)
- Mahayana Buddhism, and Vedantic Hinduism present the most practical
- means for attaining "gnosis." And at the core, they do _not_ contradict
- each other in any way. They are about as different as God, Gott, Allah,
- Nirvana, and the Tao.
-
- >
- > This is good scholarship I'm talking about here -- you can't just
- > dismiss it with a wave of your hand.
-
- How true.
-
- >
- > Fred Rice
- > darice@yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au
-
-
-
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- Erik Radmall -- eradm.roch803@xerox.com
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