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- From: rowe@pender.ee.upenn.edu (Mickey Rowe)
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- Subject: Re: On God and Science
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- Date: 21 Dec 92 19:41:53 GMT
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- In article <21DEC199211270751@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu>
- lippard@skyblu.ccit.arizona.edu (James J. Lippard) writes:
-
- > I can, and do, agree with everything [Eric Sotnak
- > (esot@troi.cc.rochester.edu) said in article
- > <1992Dec20.223129.25238@galileo.cc.rochester.edu>] without agreeing
- > that the anthropic principle explains the existence of life.
-
- Would you agree, however, that the (im)probability arguments about why
- things are such that "life" could form are uninformative? It seems
- that that was the gist of the initial post to which you objected. I
- believe it was Mark Isaak who wrote what you called "a bad argument".
- Mark did not claim that any anthropic principle "explained life", only
- that:
-
- }>}>>I, too, once marveled at the unlikelihood of everything in the
- }>}>>universe coming together in such a way to create me. Such an occurrance
- }>}>>seemed wildly improbable. Then I realized that, had all circumstances
- }>}>>not been as they were, I wouldn't be around to marvel, so questions of
- }>}>>probability are meaningless. The probability of my existence, given that
- }>}>>I exist, is exactly one, no matter what my theological assumption
-
- If you agree with Eric, and your objection is merely that Mark hasn't
- explained the existence of life, then I think you were a bit too
- hasty. Mark didn't claim to explain the existance of life; he only
- claimed that Lionel's statements about its probability of occurrence
- were somewhat meaningless.
-
- >Jim Lippard Lippard@CCIT.ARIZONA.EDU
-
- Mickey Rowe (rowe@pender.ee.upenn.edu)
-