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- From: ray@netcom.com (Ray Fischer)
- Subject: Re: Who are you guys?
- Message-ID: <1993Jan3.201153.5031@netcom.com>
- Organization: Netcom. San Jose, California
- References: <1992Dec29.235055.18645@mksol.dseg.ti.com> <1993Jan3.013943.19023@ncsu.edu>
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- Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1993 20:11:53 GMT
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- dsh@eceyv.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes ...
- >It might be helpful to distinguish between moral and legal
- >positions on abortion. They don't necessarily have to be
- >the same. I'll assume you're talking about moral positions.
-
- Given your past record in this newsgroup and others, you are hardly in
- any position to discuss _moral_ issues, since morality is a trait that
- cannot be generally applied to your contributions.
-
- >> I assume in the case of harm to the mother you treat
- >> the fetus as an aggressor that can be killed to save the mother's life?
- >
- >I don't think the term 'aggressor' is accurate, since the child
- >is innocent. See my remarks above.
-
- Crap. This is an assertion I've seen many times with little to back
- it up. The effects a fetus imposes on the mother are hardly trivial.
- Any person who did similar things to your body would rightly expect
- your vigorous attempts to stop such liberties. This hardly qualifies
- the fetus as being "innocent" if, in fact, the concept is even
- relevent and not merely another buzzword designed solely to induce
- sympathy.
-
- >These people must also condone infanticide in all cases in order
- >to be consistent. What's the moral difference between killing a
- >child one minute before it's about to be born, and one minute
- >after? (Note that I said moral, not legal difference).
-
- More crap. Supporting a woman's right to end her pregnancy at any
- time neither implies killing a fetus one minute after birth or one
- minute before birth. "Infanticide" is nothing more than another
- buzzword.
-
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- Ray Fischer "Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth
- ray@netcom.com than lies." -- Friedrich Nietszsche
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