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- From: kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy)
- Subject: Re: Slavery and abortion
- Message-ID: <1993Jan2.091616.7653@rotag.mi.org>
- Organization: Who, me???
- References: <1992Dec31.010805.20244@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> <1993Jan1.021611.412@rotag.mi.org> <1993Jan2.043830.9305@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
- Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 09:16:16 GMT
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- In article <1993Jan2.043830.9305@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> gjh@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (Galen J. Hekhuis) writes:
- >In article <1993Jan1.021611.412@rotag.mi.org> kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy) writes:
- >}In article <1992Dec31.010805.20244@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> gjh@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (Galen J. Hekhuis) writes:
- >}>
- >}>It seems that Gregg Skinner, Paul Lebow, and Michael P Noonan among others
- >}>think that slavery is a good analogy to abortion. I maintain that there is
- >}>no good analogy to abortion nor is there any good analogy to pregnancy.
- >}
- >}If you lack the ability to abstract from actual, mundane EXPERIENCES of
- >}pregnancy and/or abortion, Galen, how do you expect to ever discuss these
- >}issues intelligently?
- >}
- >}Perhaps you should consider just leaving the discussion to those of us who
- >}CAN abstract...
- >
- >Well, I might, except then people like Kevin Darcy might jump in with
- >no counter. Perhaps it escaped you, but using slavery as an analogy
- >is often unproductive, as many are confused as to who is the oppressor
- >and who is the oppressed, ...
-
- Correction: because GALEN is confused, or someone set up the analogy
- improperly, NOT because the analogy is inherently faulty.
-
- >To put it rather bluntly, Kevin, I tend to care more for the "actual,
- >mundane EXPERIENCES" as you put it, than I do for whatever abstracts you
- >might care to construct.
-
- If that's true, then I fail to see how you, as a man, and therefore as
- someone unable to gestate and give birth to a child, i.e. as someone who
- cannot actually experience abortion or its alternative, can possibly have
- any meaningful contribution to an abortion discussion.
-
- >ps how is your definition of the crucial dividing line which you can't
- >detect going?
-
- The definition is well-known and well-understood in medical circles, Galen.
-
- Maybe all of these so-called medical "experts" you know are just fakers (?)
-
- - Kevin
-