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- From: kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy)
- Newsgroups: talk.abortion
- Subject: Re: Pro-choicers must condone infanticide
- Message-ID: <1993Jan1.024527.663@rotag.mi.org>
- Date: 1 Jan 93 02:45:27 GMT
- References: <1992Dec30.005736.24210@rotag.mi.org> <1992Dec30.051334.12145@watson.ibm.com> <1992Dec30.173859.6029@wdl.loral.com>
- Organization: Who, me???
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- In article <1992Dec30.173859.6029@wdl.loral.com> bard@cutter.ssd.loral.com writes:
- >margoli@watson.ibm.com (Larry Margolis) writes:
- ># kevin@rotag.mi.org (Kevin Darcy) writes:
- ># >
- ># >"Interference" refers to detrimental effects. It is not a violation
- ># >of BA to have one's biological functions affected in beneficial ways.
- >#
- ># Someone whose religious beliefs forbid medical intervention might
- ># not agree...
- >
- >Hell, I'm an agnostic and I definitely do not agree. The last thing I
- >want is some agent of the State coming at me with a scalpel telling me
- >my right to decide what surgical procedures are to be performed on me
- >are nullified by the fact that it's for my own good.
-
- If you decide that a surgical procedure isn't "good" for you, then, from
- your point of view, it's "detrimental" rather than "beneficial", right?
- So, the statement I made could still hold true, as long as those key terms
- are given a somewhat subjectivist interpretation.
-
- Now, this assumes that you are an adult, to whom has been delegated the choice
- of what is "detrimental" and what is "beneficial". As Mark Cochran has pointed
- out, Jehovah's Witnesses parents HAVE been forced to allow their children to
- undergo needed blood transfusions, because children are not considered capable
- of determining such a complex "detriment" or "benefit" on their own, and in
- that case, we err on the side of life-preservation.
-
- Mark Cochran conveniently misses the connection, however, between this holding
- of the law and the abortion issue. Just as in the Jehovah's Witnesses analogy,
- a fetus is likewise incapable of properly deciding it's own "detriment" or
- "benefit", so, IF WE ONLY CONSIDER THE INTERESTS OF THE FETUS, it makes
- perfect sense to err on the side of life-preservation. As a pro-choicer, of
- course, I would never exclude the woman's interests in such a manner: I'm just
- pointing out why it can be legally _presumed_, for a minor, that life-
- preserving measures are "beneficial" and that life-threatening or -destroying
- measures are "detrimental". This then goes to the question of "interference".
-
- - Kevin
-