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- From: gjh@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (Galen J. Hekhuis)
- Subject: Re: Darcy and viability as important dividing line.
- Message-ID: <1992Dec31.162256.11309@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
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- Organization: University of Virginia Health Sciences Center
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- Date: Thu, 31 Dec 1992 16:22:56 GMT
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- In article <C041BC.GtD@news.cso.uiuc.edu> parker@ehsn17.cen.uiuc.edu
- (Robert S. Parker) writes:
-
- }However, "viability" does not vary with the situation.
-
- Every (and that means without exception) MD I have spoken to about the
- subject has wished to clarify the situation before answering the
- question. Their estimates of viability vary directly with the situation
- posed.
-
- }It is the *earliest*
- }time that a prematurely-born child could be "saved" if the best medical care
- }is available.
-
- This is absolutely untrue. There is no consensus on the best medical
- care available, in fact, many physicians may consider local care or
- testing the best, when another facility may actually be rated better.
-
- }Just because it would probably die if born "at home" but might
- }live and grow if born at a hospital does not mean that it would be viable in
- }one case and not in the other. (I suppose you could define "viability" to
- }exclude unusual medical care, so that survivability "at home" would be
- }important, in which case it would not have been "viable" at the hospital either
- }under that definition.)
-
- In a medical sense the location makes a great deal of difference.
- "Viability" will be at an earlier date in Washington DC than it will
- in Scratch Ankle, Arkansas. "Viability" is one of those pleasantly
- vague terms that varies all over the place. I doubt that you will
- find it defined precisely anywhere.
-
- }When Kevin says he would oppose any restrictions prior to viablitiy but would
- }allow restrictions (by majority rule) after that point, he means that he has
- }a particular general point in mind that he believes to be the medically
- }accepted point of viability. If you want to push for restrictions prior to
- }the point he believes you would first have to convince him that viability is
- }actually earlier, or he would oppose you.
-
- I realize that, but I haven't much of an idea as to what he considers
- viabile. It is difficult to describe it as x weeks before birth, as
- birth hasn't happened yet. It is also difficult to describe it as
- so many weeks after some event, because we may not know when that
- event took place (in the case of pregnancy it is very difficult to
- pinpoint exactly when it began. Oh, I know there are general rules,
- and some will claim they knew precisely when conception occured, but
- in the general case it is at best an estimate.)
-
- Perhaps Robert Parker could give an exact placement of when
- "viability" occurs, being as how it is (in his opinion) so
- medically accepted and invarient. That way both Kevin and I would
- know exactly when he would or wouldn't oppose restrictions.
-
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