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- From: gjh@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (Galen J. Hekhuis)
- Subject: Re: Slavery Analogy
- Message-ID: <1992Dec30.184040.16085@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
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- Organization: University of Virginia Health Sciences Center
- References: <1992Dec30.000254.18927@mksol.dseg.ti.com> <1992Dec30.025734.24975@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> <1992Dec30.154352.1669@mksol.dseg.ti.com>
- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 18:40:40 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec30.154352.1669@mksol.dseg.ti.com> noonan@mksol.dseg.ti.com (Michael P Noonan) writes:
- }In article <1992Dec30.025734.24975@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>, gjh@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (Galen J. Hekhuis) writes:
-
- }|> Umh, without law there is no slavery.
- }|> without law there is abortion.
-
- }You oversimplified.
-
- Quite true. I did it for Gregg Skinner's benefit, but I see it
- confused you. Sorry about that.
-
- }Your example pointed out that without law, the
- }weak cannot enslave the strong. I was trying to stress that without
- }law, the strong can and will enslave the weak.
-
- Unless they run away.
-
- }So without law, there is slavery of the weak.
-
- If someone forces the weak to return to that state. Oh, but
- there are no laws requiring that. So without law, slavery
- of the weak is possible, but is rather difficult to maintain.
- It requires a certain watchfulness, or people acting together,
- or something. Often, it is a law or statute that enables
- that condition. Abortion requires no such legal maneuverings
- or cooperation. Perhaps that (rather fundamental) difference
- escapes you.
-
- }You stated there was no slavery of the strong and concluded that
- }there is no slavery, period.
-
- Not on your tin-type! I stated that without law there was no
- slavery. I did not assert that there was no slavery and did
- not conclude that. I used an example of weak vs strong to
- illustrate that usually an external force (often the law)
- was necessary in that condition.
-
- }|> In some cases, the stronger can indeed impose its will on the weaker.
-
- }Without a law to protect the weak, this would be most of the cases.
- }I think this is proven throughout history.
-
- Your premise may be illustrated by several examples in history, but it
- is hardly proven by it. Give the strong some credit.
-
- }I am not trying to say that slavery and abortion are equal. I am
- }merely trying to point out that there is precedent for law to protect
- }underrepresented parties.
-
- OK. Examples or satistics have never been cited as to the
- protective effect of anti-abortion legislation. Perhaps
- you would like to be the first?
-
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