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- From: bard@cutter.ssd.loral.com (J H Woodyatt)
- Newsgroups: talk.abortion
- Subject: Progress with Mr. Holtsinger
- Message-ID: <1992Dec30.190225.6829@wdl.loral.com>
- Date: 30 Dec 92 19:02:25 GMT
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- dsholtsi@csl36h.csl.ncsu.edu (Doug Holtsinger) writes:
- # bard@cutter.ssd.loral.com writes:
- #
- # > What I want him to answer, and I have been repeatedly asking him in
- # > various forms is:
- #
- # I've noticed that after I post a response to your questions,
- # you'll come back with brand new questions which you dishonestly
- # label as the "old" questions. Other times you'll keep repeating
- # a question which I've already answered, and accuse me of not
- # answering it.
-
- Actually, I keep asking the question in various forms until you answer
- the question I've framed in my mind. Fortunately, this time I made
- some progress.
-
- # > Why are you undecided on every pending piece of
- # > legislation that might restrict women's abortion rights,
- # > yet you can find a way to decide about FOCA?
- #
- # The FOCA is unconstitutional--Congress is using the FOCA
- # to define fundamental Constitutional rights. Congress
- # does not have that authority, because the federal government
- # can only exercise powers relinquished by the states or
- # the people.
-
- I wouldn't be so quick to declare the FOCA unconstitutional. I can
- easily see how the Supreme Court could declare it constitutional.
- But, this is not relevant to the question I was asking. I already
- know why you oppose FOCA.
-
- # My indecision regarding state abortion legislation has
- # absolutely nothing to do with the constitutionality of
- # abortion legislation. I'm mostly concerned about the
- # effects of legislation on the health and welfare of
- # women and children.
-
- Here, we make some progress. I now know that you are entirely
- unconcerned with the constitutionality of state level abortion
- legislation -- that it plays no part in your indecision.
-
- I suppose I am to believe that your indecision stems from your
- uncertainty regarding the effects of legislation on the health and
- welfare of women (it's not clear what you mean by `children' -- are
- you referring to pregnant children, or fetuses?). This is fairly
- curious, since your rhetoric is peppered liberally with anti-abortion
- sentiment and lexicon, but I won't ask about it.
-
- # > If Roe vs. Wade was so bad, how would you like to see the
- # > Supreme Court act to change the status quo?
- #
- # I would like to see the Supreme Court completely overturn
- # Roe v. Wade.
-
- Further progress.
-
- -----
-
- Actually, Mr. Holtsinger has sent me email with even more detailed
- positions, and I am awaiting his permission to post it. He gives his
- reasons for why he wants Roe overturned.
-
-
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- +---------------------------+ ``Man has not a single right which is
- | J H Woodyatt | the product of anything but might.''
- | bard@cutter.ssd.loral.com | -- Mark Twain
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