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- From: skinner@sp94.csrd.uiuc.edu (Gregg Skinner)
- Subject: Re: Slavery Analogy
- Message-ID: <1992Dec30.183353.16725@csrd.uiuc.edu>
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- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 92 18:33:53 GMT
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- Mr. Woodyatt writes (flames deleted),
-
- >Several posters, myself included, have explained why we think the
- >analogy isn't useful for aiding in the development of public policy.
-
- Yes, but each explanation has suffered from one or more of the
- following:
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- o It relied on a logical fallacy.
-
- o It relied on an unsupported assertion.
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- o It noted a difference but failed to argue its relevance.
-
- A difference that has been noted by many, including myself, is the
- position of the fetus inside a woman's body. Simply noting the
- difference is not enough, though. The difference must be demonstrated
- relevant to the conclusion drawn by the analogy. In this case the
- analogy was used to derive the following conclusion:
-
- If the argument
-
- "If you don't like abortion, don't have one."
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- is a valid one for keeping abortion legal, then
-
- "If you don't like slavery, don't keep a slave."
-
- is a valid argument for legalized slavery.
-
- If one wants one's argument to be compelling, the connection is best
- not left to the reader. If it is, however, and the reader doesn't
- make the connection, the proper response is to make the connection
- explicit. An improper response would be to flame the reader for not
- making the connnection.
-
-
- gjh@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (Galen J. Hekhuis) writes:
-
- >In my reply I wrote that in some cultures "law" may not be the same
- >as we know it. It might even take the form of peer pressure.
-
- I noted this. However, if one chooses to call everything that can be
- used to enforce slavery "law" then the observation,
-
- Without law there is no slavery.
- Without law there is abortion.
-
- simply begs the question. A person might just as well reply, "I also
- include as law anything which allows abortion; therefore without law
- there is no abortion." Each relies on the same logical fallacy.
-
-
- Gregg M. Skinner
-