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- From: hsims@vax.clarku.edu
- Subject: RE: Abortion, Caves, Galen (WAS Vegetarianism and abortion)
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- References: <1992Dec21.050552.130@ncsu.edu> <1992Dec21.175756.18186@bmerh85.bnr.ca> <aidler.725417859@sanjuan> <1992Dec28.165015.23870@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU> <aidler.725568793@sanjuan>
- Date: 28 DEC 92 21:00:48 GMT
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- In a previous article, aidler@sanjuan.UVic.CA (E Alan Idler) wrote:
- >gjh@galen.med.Virginia.EDU (Galen J. Hekhuis) writes:
- >
- >>In article <aidler.725417 859@sanjuan> aidler@sanjuan.UVic.CA
- >>(E Alan Idler) writes:
- >
- >>}The child has *no* advocate and no voice -- yet faces grave
- >>}consequences.
- >
- >>This is quite untrue.
- >
- >I can't determine which of my points you are challenging.
- >In any case, I would challenge your assertion because:
- >
- >1. who considers the child? (maybe nobody ...)
-
- There is no child to consider. Did you mean fetus?
-
- >2. the child's entire existence is in the balance.
-
- The woman's existance is in the balance too.
-
- >>} The physician only receives a fee
- >>}by performing the abortion and is, therefore, in no position
- >>}to be impartial.
- >
- >>I don't think this sentence means what you think it does.
- >
- >Do you presume that all physicians always act in the
- >best interest of the woman or child and never in their
- >own self-interests?
-
- A physician who is interested only in fees would be much better off
- encouraging childbirth. They make much more money delivering babies than
- they do aborting fetuses.
-
- >>}Therefore, the *only* way to provide an independent
- >>}ajudication of these rights and do the best for all considered
- >>}is to have the state provide an impartial tribunal to
- >>}evaluate the situation.
- >
- >>How did we ever get along before "states"? Btw, Virginia is a
- >>commonwealth, would they have to change if they were to provide
- >>a truly impartial tribunal? And does that leave Canada Right
- >>Out? Or would you like to claim a la Kevin Darcy that "*only*"
- >>means something other than singular, in this context...
- >
- >1. state == government in general (in this instance)
- >
- >2. A formal "court" probably isn't what is required (or
- >appropriate) for this process, but I believe the
- >government has a duty to mediate the rights of the
- >mother and child.
-
- Do you know of any way to give rights to a fetus without taking away rights
- from the pregnant woman?
-
- .... Heather.
-