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- From: steven@advtech.uswest.com ( Steve Novak)
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- Subject: Re: Abortion, Caves, Galen (WAS Vegetarianism and abortion)
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- Date: 22 Dec 92 22:35:52 GMT
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- > = (B. Munroe) writes:
- >> = ( Steve Novak) writes:
- >>> = (B. Munroe) writes:
-
- >>>..... Neither pro-choice or pro-life -- just pro-responsibility .....
-
- >>Don't be shy...tell us: would you support anti-abortion laws? Is this
- >>"pro-responsibility" the same as pro-lifers pretending if a woman
- >>gets pregnant she should be forced to carry to term?
- >>
- >>Thanks, Bob.
-
- >I guess you first have to define what responsibility means to you.
- >To me it means to live my life in such a way so as to cause as little
- >grief, pain, duress, discomfort, etc. to other beings as possible.
-
- That's a good definition of responsibility. My definition would add taking
- care of my loved ones if needed, but hey, that's a nit to make me look good
- :).
-
- >That's why I'm a bleeding heart, liberal vegetarian AR person.
-
- (Ahem...what is an "AR person"?)
-
- >That also means that I personally am a pro-life person. It doesn't
- >mean that I expect everyone to be pro-life - I leave that up to the
- >individual. In other words, globally I'm pro-choice - I just personally
- >choose to respect fetal rights.
-
- It took me a while to get over the shock of you, a pro-lifer, not trying to
- obfuscate WRT the word "responsibility", my reason for clarifying. Read a
- few t.a. posts and you'll see what I mean.
-
- >By pro-responsibility I mean that the individual has to decide on which side
- >of an issue to stand based on who they are. This means researching
- >and giving serious thought to an issue - informed decision making vs.
- >raw reaction.
-
- I agree.
-
- >A vegan friend of mine classes meat-eaters into two groups: uninformed
- >and evil (the term 'evil' is his - please flame /dev/null if it insults you).
- >He says the 'uninformed' meat-eaters are those who have not yet realized
- >that eating meat is bad (i.e. cruel). He says the 'evil' meat-eaters are
- >those who know how much pain and suffering that an animal goes through before
- >ending up on a plate, yet refuse to change their lifestyle.
-
- I am an evil meat-eater. It seems "uninformed" meat-eating adults would have
- to be extremely ignorant of the world, or mentally impaired. But I sorta see
- your point.
-
- >I use the above example to illustrate what I mean by responsibility -
- >changing your habits and lifestyle to reflect your true beliefs (no matter
- >how different they may be from your friends', relatives', etc).
- >
- >Hope that clarifies things.
-
- Yes. Thanks muchly. If everyone here starts answering as quickly and
- honestly as you did here, you're gonna ruin this well-carbonized flame fest
- called t.a.
-
-
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