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- From: nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos)
- Subject: Steve Adams blows it again (was: Finkelstein & souls)
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- Date: 21 Dec 92 19:47:45 GMT
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- In <adams.724610957@spssig> adams@spss.com (Steve Adams) writes:
-
- The title alludes to a post I tried to do, "Second reply to Adams on
- biblical homicide/abortion." My netserver said it had been posted and
- even showed it on my "index", but I have gotten zero feedback on it. I
- will repost it under the title, "Abortion and Religion II: biblical attitude."
-
- >lfinkelstein@vax.clarku.edu writes:
-
- >>In a previous article, cj@eno.esd.sgi.com (C.J. Silverio) wrote:
- >>
- >>
- >>
- >>>Then Loren F can explain why he thinks religion is a fit
- >>>basis for legislation.
- >>
- >>You want another example of religion being a fit basis for legislation?
- >>Here are a few
- >>
- >>"Thou shalt not kill"
- >>"Thou shalt not steal"
- >Neither of these have ANY religious requirement as a basis. Depriving
- >someone of their life of property does not require a god to call it a bad
- >thing. They can stand on their own without religious backing. They are
- >rational.
-
- >>In parts of New Jersey, it is Illegal for most stores to be open on sunday.
- >This is garbage law. It's a leftover from the theocratic past...and most
- >BlueLaws have been overturned as unconstitutional. This law can't stand on
- >it's own without religious backing.
-
- >>In most states having more then 1 spouse is illegal.
- >Government interference. These laws too, should be overturned or repealed.
-
- Could Steve Adams be contemplating conversion to the Latter Day Saints, or
- Islam?!
-
- Don't go away yet: this is NOT what the subject line refers to. However,
- it *is* my personal opinion that Steve blew it here too.
-
- >>In some states adultery is illegal.
- >Government interference. Repeal them.
-
- >>All of these are based in religion. I think that a few of them make pretty
- >>good laws.
-
- >Only the laws against killing and stealing are good. And guess what? They
- >don't need religion for them to make sense.
-
- Hey, Steve, how come you did not take Loren to task for using the word
- "killing"? We've had a heated discussion about this one before, and I am
- of the opinion that "commit unjustifiable homicide" is a better
- translation, while you seem to be of the "commit murder" party.
- You even accused me, totally without cause, of ignorance, and when I tried
- to advance the discussion into this gray area, you deleted my words.
-
- Yet here
- you even use the word "killing" yourself, despite the obvious fact
- that it can be applied to a fetus as well as to a born human. You have,
- on the other hand, stoutly asserted that sometimes abortion is the
- responsible thing to do, then in the same post turned around and
- said you were personally opposed to abortion.
-
- When will you get your act together, Steve?
-
- Peter Nyikos
-
-