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- From: nyikos@math.scarolina.edu (Peter Nyikos)
- Subject: Fictional Gordon-Suzanne Dialogue on Trumped-up Case 3
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- Organization: USC Department of Computer Science
- Date: 21 Dec 92 16:05:38 GMT
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- Apparently my netserver was mute for a while before it went deaf, because
- the dialogue you see below was supposedly posted, but Gordon never saw it,
- and Nadja Adolf, to whom I mailed a "sneak preview", never let Gordon
- know of its existence.
-
- The following dialogue was inspired by a charge Gordon made about Suzanne's
- (alleged) hypocrisy in re desire to adopt unwanted children. A few minutes
- ago I (successfully, I hope, this time!) posted my latest reply about that
- charge, and I direct you to the other post mentioning Case #3 for details.
- Very briefly, someone offered to give Suzanne the phone number of a Roxbury
- social worker who could send Suzanne some members of a gang to adopt.
- Gordon charged Suzanne with hypocrisy for not taking advantage of this
- offer. This led me to wonder just how broadly Gordon interprets the word
- "children", leading to the imaginary vignette you see below.
-
- DISCLAIMER. I do not claim the principals in the following dialogue would
- act in the manner portrayed, were they to confront each other in the
- manner described. Like so many philosophical dialogues, the two
- protagonists are used as a vehicle for illustrating certain ideas.
-
- I offer this vignette to talk.abortion with some trepidation. I don't want to
- be putting nefarious ideas in anyone's head.
-
- ************************** VIGNETTE ******************************
-
- [The doorbell rings at the Forgach residence. Suzanne goes to the door
- and looks thru the peephole.]
-
- Suzanne: Yes, who's there, please?
-
- Gordon: It's me, Gordon. I'm looking for Suzanne.
-
- [Suzanne opens the door slightly to get a better look, but leaves the
- security chain on.]
-
- Suzanne: Gordon? Gordon who? I don't recognize you.
-
- Gordon: Of course you don't, Silly, you haven't seen me before. But you
- know me well. I'm Gordon Storga.
-
- Suzanne: G...Gordon Storga? What are *you* doing here?
-
- Gordon: Why, you invited me a number of months back, and I am finally able
- to make it. I hope I am not here at an inconvenient time.
-
- Suzanne: Well...no...but there must be some mistake. I certainly did
- not invite Gordon Storga, the networker, here, and I don't know of anyone
- else by that name.
-
- Gordon: Stop playing dumb, Suxanne. You know what I am talking about.
-
- Suzanne: My God, maybe you *are* networker Storga...
-
- Gordon: There you go again, taking the Lord's name in vain. Do you really
- get to pick and choose which tenets of your religion you follow?
-
- Suzanne: I guess you *are* who you say you are. I can't think of anyone
- but a networker who would talk to me like that. ...Strange...somehow I
- pictured you as looking a lot more formidable. If you don't mind my
- saying so, you look rather...er...pathetic.
-
- [Suzanne hesitantly undoes the chain and opens the door wider.]
-
- Gordon: You'd look pathetic, too, Suzanne, if your parents had just
- informed you that you and your spouse and children are no longer welcome
- to make your home in their house. That's why I am grateful for your
- hospitable offer. As a token of my appreciation, I'd like you to take
- this bouquet of flowers (not easy to come by in Tucson, I'll have you
- know), and this present for your husband.
-
- Suzanne: The flowers are lovely, but I can't really accept them or the
- present, because there must be some mistake.
-
- [While trying to put the flowers and present in Suzanne's hands, Gordon
- steps into the house and maneuvers past Suzanne.]
-
- Gordon: No mistake. Nice house you have here, Suzanne, I think I'm
- going to like it here.
-
- [Goes over to the sofa, sits down, puts flowers and present down and
- feet up on coffee table.]
-
- Suzanne: Your manners leave a lot to be desired, but somehow I'm not
- surprised. Could you please tell me what on earth you mean by "I think
- I'm going to like it here"?
-
- Gordon: Why, Suzanne, could it be you don't remember? Let me give you
- a free clue. The present for your husband is a box of cigars, the better
- to celebrate the arrival of his adopted son.
-
- Suzanne: Could you be referring to my offer to adopt unwanted children?...
- WAIT A MINUTE!! Who *is* this "adopted son"??
-
- Gordon: Can't you guess? It's me, of course. I'm unwanted by my parents,
- as I told you...
-
- Suzanne: Hahahahahahaha! Gordon, you sure know how to play elaborate
- practical jokes! You know as well as I do that I was offering to adopt
- CHILDREN! Why, you look like you are older than I am!
-
- Gordon: I am the child of my parents, Suzanne. I came to this world in
- the usual way. Didn't your parents ever tell you where you came from?
- I'm not surprised. You Catholics sure know how to keep your kids in
- the dark about sex...
-
- Suzanne: As sarcastic as ever, aren't you? At least now I'm convinced
- you *are* Gordon Storga. Thanks for making that clear, at least.
-
- Gordon: On top of which, Suzanne, I am a child of the universe. I have
- just as much right to be here in this house as you do. Or don't you
- believe in inscriptions in 17th century Baltimore churches? A fine
- example you are to your fellow Christians!
-
- Suzanne: There is no such inscription. You are loosely paraphrasing a
- passage from "Desiderata," a 20th century prose poem by an agnostic whose
- name escapes me at the moment, it's something like "Ehrlich".
-
- Gordon: Do you know that for a fact, Suzanne? Have you personally gone
- over every square foot of every 17th century Baltimore church?
-
- Suzanne: Gordon, I am in no mood for your talk.religion.misc games. In
- fact, the sooner you leave here, the happier I'll be.
-
- Gordon: That's mighty big of you, Frau F. You'd evict your own adopted
- son from your home, but you wouldn't allow a woman to evict a parasite
- from her uterus even if she took every reasonable precaution to prevent
- its getting there. One more example of your anti-choice philosophy.
-
- Suzanne: I'm in no mood for your talk.abortion games either. To begin
- with, you boor, I didn't say I'd evict you. I was hoping you would
- voluntarily leave, like most reasonable people who have overstayed
- their welcome...
-
- Gordon: Oh, isn't MissBitch Sooooooo caring? I suppose if I had brought
- you a newborn baby to adopt, you'd decide it had overstayed its welcome
- as soon as it started to fuss and cry, wouldn't you now?
-
- Suzanne: I don't want to have to evict you, Gordon, but I will if I have
- to. Here, take your flowers, your present, let me show you to the door!
-
- Gordon: You're just trying to weasel out of your commitment, Suxanne.
- Somehow, I'm not surprised...
-
- Suzanne: Gordon Storga, will you please leave now?!
-
- Gordon: ...A shame, too. You have no idea what fun things I can show
- your sensorily deprived chidren, and you and your anal-retentive husband.
- When you see what blasts I arrange with my wife and ex-girlfriends and
- their SO's you will be glad you snaked me in out of the wet, as Huckleberry
- Finn put it. We'll have pot, drugs, mind-blowing orgies to put a little
- color into your life...
-
- Suzanne: That does it! If you don't leave my house, I'm calling the police!
-
- Gordon: Spoken like a true pro-forcer, Ms. Theocracy! And a true
- hypocrite: you would turn your adopted son in to the police, but not
- your biological daughter. And you claimed you did not want any special
- treatment for her. Shame, shame, shame...
-
- Suzanne: I mean it, Gordon, if you aren't out of this house by the time
- I count to ten, I'm picking up the phone and calling the police. One...
-
- Gordon: Let me tell you something, Frau F. If you disown me and call
- the police, I'll expose you to the whole net as a lying hypocrite.
- I'll post on talk.abortion, alt.adoption, alt.abortion.inequity,
- soc.women, soc.men, talk.religion.misc...
-
- [Remainder of scene mercifully omitted]
-
-