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- From: oleg@netcom.com (Oleg Kiselev)
- Subject: Re: Walk away, run away, was Re: Pre-Sex Contract
- Message-ID: <1992Dec21.110114.3892@netcom.com>
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- References: <1992Dec15.065236.12705@netcom.com> <1992Dec15.130612.28668@netcom.com> <1992Dec21.021844.9653@netcom.com>
- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 11:01:14 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec21.021844.9653@netcom.com> rohwerwd@netcom.com (Mr. Tickle Monster) writes:
- >>*Her* child? If you have fathered it, it's your child as well.
- > If she and I make an agreement in advance and she unilaterally
- >breaks the agreement by keeping the child, then she should live with
- >the consequences of her decision and raise the child by herself without
- >my support.
-
- It's her child and yours if you had fathered it. Period. If she decides
- that she will keep the little monster alive rather than abort it, then it's
- not the child's fault that she changed her mind. By having had intercourse
- with the woman you have implicitly commited yourself to taking financial
- responsibility for the possible result of your indulgence.
-
- Regardless of what you think of this woman or how you feel about broken
- promices, regardless of your tantrums and principles, there is a little
- bundle of joy screaming its heart out and demanding for you to finance
- the future of your bloodline. For the forseeable future the legal
- system of this country will take the side of the child's needs over
- your peculiar set of worldviews.
-
- >If she and I agree to alter our agreement, so that I have
- >visitation rights and pay child support, after she becomes pregnant,
- >then I would pay child support.
-
- You are in no position to make conditional offers. You have agreed to pay
- child support as soon as you decided to have sex with her.
-
- > See my first paragraph. My parental responsibility does disapear
- >if the woman unilaterally breaks our agreement.
-
- Your parental responsibility is to the *child*, not the mother. Because
- you have not entered any contracts with the child and the child is an
- unwilling victim of your actions, you have a financial obligation to
- do provide your share for the child's welfare. The woman will also pay the
- price -- most of her time and most of her money over the next 18-21 years
- will be spent on feeding, dressing and comforting your offspring.
-
- >The legal system will
- >have a different opinion and will make me pay child support. I will
- >pay child support if and only if the court decides that I am the parent
- >and gives me an order to pay.
-
- If you keep up with this contract business, you are most unlikely to get
- to the courtroom. Or the bedroom.
- --
- Oleg Kiselev at home ...use the header to find the path
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