NetNews Usenet Archive 1992 #31/NN_1992_31.iso/spool/soc/motss/53873

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From: [e-mail] (Joseph Francis)
Newsgroups: soc.motss
Subject: Re: The Foreskin-Impaired (was Re: Drooling over...)
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Date: 28 Dec 92 18:26:51 GMT
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In article <thaaang.725557130@cwis> [e-mail] (John Dorrance) writes:
>[e-mail] (Joseph Francis) writes:
>
>>I made a mistake in the previous post...
>
>I *thought* this was pretty odd. (Understandable mistake, though; It's
>always confusing when you're talking cut vs. uncut. I think it's because
>when you use one pair of terms (circumcised/uncircumcised) the terms
>make cut to be the default, while when talking foreskin/noforeskin, the
>terms make uncut the default.
>
>>>Having a forskin increases sensitivity. This is without question. I
>>>don't think this is a good thing, however. I find that quite a few men
>>>w/o foreskins can't really take aggressive friction on the head of
>
>With foreskins, I think you mean.
>
>>>their penis, and another small group of uncircumcised men don't want
>>>to skin the foreskin back. I like to run my finger around just under
>>>the rim of the glans when I'm jacking someone off, and about half
>
>Whee!
>
>>>uncircumcised men will just go through the roof and stop me.
>
>I usually do too (not when *you* specifically do it, of course; I mean
>when someone in general does this. Sounds like you've had more playtime
>with foreskins than the men I've been with), but - Helpful Hint from
>Hellaslut - I find that lube helps enormously. For those us sensitive
>men, GOBS AND GOBS OF LOOGEY-ENRICHED GOOBER make things much more
>comfortable.

It is not so much that there isn't plenty of lubricant, it is just
that the sensation is overwhelming in far more cases with
uncircumcised men than circumcised men. With gobs and gobs of
lubricant, another excellent get-them-to-shake-a-leg-with-frenzy is to
grasp the head of the cock and close it in your fist then pretend you
are unscrewing it, like the top of a bottle, the rim of the glans
approximately at the rim of the bottle-top. 80% of cut men will
immediately make a sound and grab your wrist, 20% of uncut men will.
They all like it but for most cut men it is just too intense. A
sensation that is too intense for both cut and uncut men is to grab
the shaft of the cock, just below the glans, then with the palm of the
other hand, very, very well lubricated, press down on the head of the
cock and gently rotate your hand around an axis exactly through the
center of the cock. As though you are pivoting on the very tip of the
cock. Now. Press /VERY/ hard, mashing down, while you rotate.
Guaranteed, if they can take it for more than a few seconds, they'll
start shaking, or parts of their body jerking involuntarily. And they
won't cum - that's the beauty of it. Last funw-th-hands is to hold the
cock flat against the belly. With plenty of lube, press the base of
your palm just at the base of the glans. Either grind gendly into the
base with your palmo, or with the whole flat of your hand rub back and
forth, up and down on the head and shaft of the cock. Can't do it with
an uncut man. Very slow techniques are useless with uncut men - with a
wet finger, stroking up the length of the underside of the shaft very
slowly, just to the tip of the glans, over and over for half an hour
or more. You always have to tangle with the foreskin, and that takes
out the trancelike quality that you have as you build up to them
fainting when they come. Uncircumcised cocks have much more of a
chance of smelling pretty grim. I think the only reason that American
schoolboy-men make terrible jokes about vaginal odor is because they
are uncut.  I'm sure that it would stop the moment people realized
that in some circumstances, fish is preferable to oyster cornbread.

Uncircumcised cocks, with the skin pulled back, are much better to
photograph than cut cocks. The head looks fresher and shinier, more
succulent. Unless well-oiled, cut cocks usually look dried-outish, and
the circumcision scar-tissue is not the most fabulous thing in the
world to be staring at when you want to be seeing a piece of meat.

Question for women who have managed to read this to the gruesome end.
Are there tremendous differences in labial, clitoral, and vaginal
sensitivity for different women? Different ways of stimulation that
are particularly good? I'm always curious, and never shy.

That reminds me too. I know very little about using vibrators. I've
had entertaining showers with vibrating shower massage gizmos and
certainly tortured my share of victims with them. I haven't really
experimented that much with massagers you clamp to hour hand, I
imagine they can be unbelievable.

-joe, who is working on his new book "All I know about sex I learned
in the boy scouts" <ahem>


--
US Jojo; damp, slighly soiled, but tasty nonetheless.