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- From: arne@spdcc.com (Arne Adolphson)
- Newsgroups: soc.motss
- Subject: Re: Changing standards of female beauty (was Re: Ageism)
- Message-ID: <1992Dec24.052415.7292@spdcc.com>
- Date: 24 Dec 92 05:24:15 GMT
- Article-I.D.: spdcc.1992Dec24.052415.7292
- References: <mattm-231292130250@mcmelmon.apple.com> <1haug6INN9tj@mizar.usc.edu> <mattm-231292173402@mcmelmon.apple.com>
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- In article <mattm-231292173402@mcmelmon.apple.com>
- mattm@apple.com (Matthew Melmon) writes:
- >You see the problem, DLM? Even when I *say* "half humorous" - it
- >is not readily apparent to even the better educated twits that
- >what follows is not necessarily to be taken at face value.
-
- Well, yes, you *say* "half humorous", but you were joking
- about the wrong decades.
-
- >I think, however, that a casual jaunt through Vogue, et. al. during
- >the period in question would reveal a strong androgynist bent.
-
- Well, I have indeed taken casual jaunts through Vogue, et. al.
- during the period in question, and what I've seen are incredible
- *feminine* superstar models like Lisa Fonssagrives. Incredible
- Amazon types. Womanly women like Carmen. Then of course there
- were the bizarre types, like Dovima, but to call her "androgynous"
- is quite wrong.
-
- >What does an androgynous woman look like? No chest, little
- >variation from chest to waist to hips. Short, simple hairstyle.
- >And, of course, no body fur.
-
- Why don't you flip open some issues of Bazaar from the golden
- years when Carmel Snow was its editor and Alexey Brodovitch
- was its art director?
-
- >A 13 year old boy.
-
- I've never seen a 13 year old boy who looked like Suzy Parker.
- Where do *you* see them?
-
- Arne
-