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- From: lcrew@andromeda.rutgers.edu (Louie Crew)
- Newsgroups: soc.motss
- Subject: Re: Ageism (>when does a boy become a man?)
- Message-ID: <Dec.23.18.37.38.1992.2539@andromeda.rutgers.edu>
- Date: 23 Dec 92 23:37:39 GMT
- References: <72260@cup.portal.com> <1992Dec23.212429.7504@reed.edu>
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- Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J.
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- nelson@reed.edu (Nelson Minar) writes:
-
- >I don't see how you can equate paedophilia, the desire to have sex
- >with children, with being interested in people who are "young". Most
- >of the erotic images I see in gay male culture are people who look to
- >be between 17 and 27. This is not what a reasonable person would call
- >paedophilia, is it?
-
- No. But of course, that leaves out most states of the Union to qualify as
- "reasonable."
-
- I conduct a discussion group at Avenel, NJ's prison for sex offenders. One man
- described his "crime" for us on Sunday night. His stepson came into the
- room while he, the step-father, was watching an adult het film. The son
- stopped to watch for a while too. Each noticed the other's boners. In
- time, the step-father masturbated. The step-son did so too. Soon they
- moved closer and fondled each other to orgasm.
-
- This happened again on another occasion, once.
-
- The step-son then told his mother, who was scandalized and told the police.
- The step-father is now divorced and likely to serve 12 years of his 18-year
- sentence.
-
- How old was the "boy"?
-
- 17 at the time.
-
- A court-appointed lawyer told the step-father that he would end up in
- Rahway, a much meaner place, if he reported the events as they actually
- happened, that he needed a diagnosis of "compulsive," so that he could go
- to a more comfortable prison (Avenel). So he lied and said that he had
- penetrated the anus of the "boy" twice. That made him compulsive and
- eligible for the "nicer" jail. It's nicer in that all the people there did
- similar "crimes" and are thus not likely to push you around for being
- a child-molester, as at Rahway, where only murderers and extortioners are
- considered "good guys." But at Rahway, persons serve typically only
- one-third of their sentences before parole. At Avenel, they almost
- always serve two-thirds. I.e., if you want a short sentence, blow someone's
- brains out or steal all her money. If you want a long sentence, fondle
- a 17-year-old consenting person.
-
- What if the 17-year-old had become 18 a night after the second fondling?
-
- Even then he would have still be 18 and this would have been a heinous
- crime!
-
- I am not talking about life behind the Cotton Curtain where I was brought
- up (nee Alabama, 1936); I am talking about New Jersey, which recently became
- the third state to have antidiscrimination protection for lesbigays!
-
- This man's case is not rare.
-
- Who watches the watchers?
-
- Quean Lutibelle/Louie
-
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- Louie Crew, Academic Foundations Department, Rutgers University, NWK 07102
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