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- From: "Amy Young Leith" <alyoung@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu>
- Subject: Re: Nasty E-mail (was: Hooray!!)
- Message-ID: <1992Dec28.163259.11054@news.cs.indiana.edu>
- Organization: Indiana University, Bloomington
- References: <1992Dec10.031718.6599@microsoft.com> <1992Dec17.211955.17576@news.cs.indiana.edu> <ljiopgINNikn@news.bbn.com>
- Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 16:32:53 -0500
- Lines: 65
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- In article <ljiopgINNikn@news.bbn.com> rmcewen@bbn.com writes:
- > I don't get alt.feminism but would appreciate it if someone
- > would forward it there for completeness:
- > The following response is said with "tongue firmly in cheek":
-
- Why bother to take up such space to respond to this if it's not
- "serious." I'll respond as if it is.
-
- > This is true: a "man" would say, "Would you like to go out for
- > dinner?"
-
- No, an intelligent being would realize that if they want sex, perhaps they
- should go somewhere where people are likely there for sex, like a
- whorehouse or a pickup bar. Even alt.personals would be a valid place
- to look.
-
- > Yes, a "man" wouldn't use this this obviously line. He'd say
- > something about you being beautiful/special/intelligent and how
- > that and how much you are important to him -- or other "stuff
- > that'll impress most women".
-
- How about not bothering a person just because she happens to be a
- woman who is posting on usenet as if she were wearing a sign that
- says, "Come on to me, I'm easy."
-
- I don't get the leap of logic that says that if a woman makes any type
- of comment on an issue that relates even in the least to sexuality
- that she is in some way inviting sexual come ons.
-
- > Yes, but that's because these freshmen aren't as experienced as
- > "men" are so they appear foolish to most observers. After facing
- > the inevitable rejections they'll soon learn to start posting
- > looking for "friends just to talk to" in their area or whatever.
-
- Of course you're going to be rejected when you look in the wrong
- place. Do you go into the grocery store and ask if they have the new
- super dong jelly vibe? Why not? Because it's inapporpriate? Because
- common sense tells you they won't carry it? Duh.
-
- > This is very good advice that these "boys" should listen to !
- > Listen to what this women is saying, "boys". Stop pretending that
- > you are really interested in sex. Start talking about "sensuality"
- > and "sexuality" and make sure that you are genuinely curious and
- > honest about the question you ask unlike when you say that you
- > are interested in sex...
-
- Don't pretend anything, but don't go looking for sex from someone just
- because they happen to be open to talking about sexual issues.
-
- > That's right, "boys". Stop trying to be mind-readers. Trying
- > flirting, "creatively" -- this is what "honesty" is all about !
-
- Hardly. I think even a heavy case of "flirting" with no intent to
- commence is far different than asking for someone's address and phone
- number, or inviting them to stop by for some "fun" the next time you
- go through their town. All of these instances are things I have come
- across in a SINGLE and first email contact with someone. Yeesh.
-
- amy
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