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- From: gazit@duke.cs.duke.edu (Hillel Gazit)
- Newsgroups: soc.men,alt.feminism
- Subject: Re: Damned Souls (was Re: Version Five)
- Message-ID: <725509293@lear.cs.duke.edu>
- Date: 28 Dec 92 02:21:34 GMT
- References: hjm5uINNgml@agate.berkeley.edu> <1hkqjdINNj7d@agate.berkeley.edu>
- Reply-To: gazit@cs.duke.edu (Hillel)
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- Organization: The Piranha Club
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- The following article was rejected from soc.feminism.
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- In article <1hkqjdINNj7d@agate.berkeley.edu>
- levine@symcom.math.uiuc.edu (Lenore Levine) writes:
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- >Let me add, present a believable case (*with details*) and I'll believe it.
-
- I don't want to play the game of "show me all your life for a
- discussion on the net," but I can show a case, that you can check in
- your library, to show how affirmative action really works, especially
- when it is implemented by liberals.
-
- Take for example the case of Kaiser Aluminum & Chemical Corp. in La.
- Under government pressure the company used different criteria for
- promotions of blacks and whites. Whites had to have more years
- on the job before they could have a promotion.
-
- So Brian F. Weber, the son of a grocer who started to work in 1968
- saw it as a discrimination and sued. His point was that a quota which
- is based on race and not on class or education is just a discrimination.
- All the courts till the Supreme Court agreed. In the Supreme
- Court one of the justices (Potter Stewart) pointed out that court
- should decide if the law lets an employer "discriminate against
- some white people."
-
- The very liberal Supreme Court of 1979 decided 7-2 that the answer is
- yes, and all the liberals celebrated one more victory in the fight
- against racism - the white son of a grocer lost!
-
- Now try to answer just one question:
-
- Did, by your criteria, Brian F. Weber was discriminated against?
-
- Please try to answer yes or no.
-
- Hillel gazit@cs.duke.edu
-
- "Were we the ones who called the shots, there would
- be no institutional discrimination against us." -- Clay Bond
-