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- From: payner@netcom.com (Rich Payne)
- Subject: Re: Living in a State of Siege
- Message-ID: <1992Dec23.152823.27416@netcom.com>
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- References: <1992Dec22.080745.3428@smds.com> <1992Dec22.172703.13719@midway.uchicago.edu> <1992Dec22.164240.9686@news.cs.indiana.edu>
- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 15:28:23 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec22.164240.9686@news.cs.indiana.edu> "Amy Young Leith" <alyoung@cherry.ucs.indiana.edu> writes:
- >
- >>rh@ishmael.UUCP (Richard Harter) writes:
- >>
- >>>For every woman that is the victim of violence there are three men that
- >>>are the victims of violence. Since "we" see a special need for action
- >>>against violence against women, but not against men, the natural conclusion
- >>>is that "we" feel that violence against a woman is more than three times
- >>>as serious as violence against a man.
- >>>
- >>>Do you not see that this sort of viewpoint is perceived as amounting to
- >>>saying, "Women are more important, more human than men. Their hurts matter
- >>>more. Women are entitled; men are not."
- >
- >Given the statistics, there is a lot of sexism going on here in this issue.
- >
- >Violence against women is seen as a "bigger evil" perhaps because
- >women are still viewed as "unable" to protect themselves, or unfairly
- >"outranked" by men. This is one possible explaination which is quite
- >sexist.
- >
- >The other could follow the logic that women do not victimize men as
- >much as men victimize women, therefore the latter is a "larger"
- >problem.
-
- This is a curious line to draw, as women have been -defined- as victims
- by so many groups. I suspect by this measure, the conclusion is a given,
- and not especially meaningful.
-
- From the posted statistics women are violent to men about as often as
- men are violent to women, and one report said for the same reasons.
-
- Using the statistics posted as the measure of victimization, who would
- you say has a "larger" problem?
-
- >amy
- >--
- >alyoung@kiwi.ucs.indiana.edu for personal mail
- > All business mail to alyoung@silver.ucs.indiana.edu
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- >**Dislcaimer:I only speak for myself. Anyone who thinks differently is a fool.
- > (This means NOT my employer!!)
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