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- From: acp@cray.com (Anthony Peterson)
- Subject: Re: Living in a State of Siege
- Message-ID: <1992Dec21.234239.22918@hemlock.cray.com>
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- References: <1gth7bINNcfi@gap.caltech.edu> <BzM49A.5yx@world.std.com> <MUFFY.92Dec21154021@remarque.berkeley.edu>
- Date: 21 Dec 92 23:42:39 CST
-
- In article <MUFFY.92Dec21154021@remarque.berkeley.edu> muffy@remarque.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy) writes:
- >
- >No, the issue is that every time someone talks about the violence that
- >is practiced against women, some people here start shouting about the
- >violence that happens to men. Not only do they not seem to want us to
- >work on the problem *we* are concerned about, but they further want us
- >to work on *their* problems. No one has *denied* that men have
- >problems, those are simply not necessarily the problems that many
- >feminists are concerned about. It is apparently more interesting to
- >advocates for men to attack anyone working on women's problems than to
- >*do* anything about the problems they are supposedly so concerned about.
- >
- So you're saying that the issue isn't violence, the issue
- is violence against women? Violence is not an issue unless
- it is directed against women? You aren't concerned with the
- level of violence in society as long as women aren't the
- victims?
-
- You obviously aren't the solution, you're just another part
- of the problem.
-