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- From: uunet!infmx!hartman@ncar.UCAR.EDU (Robert Hartman)
- Newsgroups: soc.feminism
- Subject: men crossing the street at night to avoid frightening
- Date: 28 Dec 1992 23:07:53 GMT
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- In article <1hcnc5INNrdd@agate.berkeley.edu> mara@panix.com (Mara Chibnik) writes:
- >I was around for at least one major
- >hammering out of the question of whether a guy should cross the
- >street to avoid frightening a woman walking alone at night
- >jj@alice.att.com (jj, curmudgeon and all-around grouch) writes:
- > >I'm also very sensitive to this sort of suggestion. A few
- > >years ago on nutnoise this topic was hammered to death. The
- > >'feminist concensus' at that time [...]
- > >was that NOT doing it was some kind of harrassment or assault.
-
- >Not at all. I think it's a helpful suggestion, and I'm glad that
- >some men do it, but I would not-- and never have, and would dispute
- >anybody who said it was-- characterise failure to cross the street
- >as either harassment or assault.
-
- > >I took issue with this, to the result that I was branded
- > >a woman-hater, rapist, and other nasty things, simply
- > >because I refused to act like I was a criminal. [...]
-
- As a man, I must say that I don't have any problem with keeping a wide
- berth when I see a woman walking alone at night. If I'm by myself, and
- I'm not in a huge hurry, it's just not that big a deal to adjust my
- pace to maintain a constant, respectable distance. I don't consider it
- "acting like a criminal" to acknowlege that a woman might feel more at
- risk with me than I might feel with her. I know that she's safe in my
- presence, and since I can easily communicate that with a slight
- adjustment that doesn't inconvenience me in any substantial way, why
- not do it?
-
- -r
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