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- From: Albert-Lunde@nwu.edu (Albert Lunde)
- Subject: Re: treating men as sex toys
- Message-ID: <1992Dec26.052957.4713@news.acns.nwu.edu>
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- Originator: lunde@casbah.acns.nwu.edu
- Sender: lunde@casbah.acns.nwu.edu (Albert Lunde)
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- Organization: Ministry of Silly Walks
- References: <MUFFY.92Dec24114049@remarque.berkeley.edu>
- Date: Sat, 26 Dec 1992 05:29:57 GMT
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- In article <MUFFY.92Dec24114049@remarque.berkeley.edu>
- muffy@remarque.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy) writes:
- >I keep running into this idea, which seems very strange to me. Most
- >recently, I heard a man on a mailing list say it: he will have sex with
- >men when he just wants sex, but he will only have emotional
- >relationships with women. I've heard other men say this and some of the
- >postings about male-male sex in other cultures seem to say something
- >similar. [...]
- >
- >For me, this is not true at all; the emotional interactions seem to be
- >pretty identical. I know that in our society men are discouraged from
- >expressing "soft" emotions, which could hinder forming close emotional
- >bonds, particularly with other men who are doing (or rather avoiding)
- >the same thing. Nonetheless, I believe that men and women have the same
- >set of possible emotions, the same capacity for strong emotions, the
- >same ability to love or get hurt or care about someone.
- >
- >Without getting into "what is *really* bisexual," my personal definition
- >of bisexual is not simply having sex with both men and women, but being
- >*interested* in both men and women, as people, as emotional partners, as
- >well as as sexual partners. I wouldn't feel bisexual if I was just
- >using men for sex...they'd just be a rather elaborate sort of dildo, and
- >I don't think I would be bisexual if I was only having relationships (of
- >any sort) with women and just had a large collection of dildos...*grin*.
- [...]
-
- Well, it sounds like your experience is not inconsistent with the idea
- that women are socialized to place more importance on emotions and
- relationships. It sounds like you would not pursue relationships
- without a relational component, so *for you* the experences of both
- sexes tend to have more in common.
-
- A man, say, who was not adverse to cheap meaningless sex ;) might find
- that men and women responded differently to the idea.
-
- As for myself, I can see the attractions of both emotional intimacy
- and a large collection of sex toys ;). (At this point I'm not sure I'm in
- a position to be choosy.) At the same time with issues like AIDS, I feel
- that mutual trust is very important, which implies some history and
- depth of feeling.
-
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