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- From: muffy@remarque.berkeley.edu (Muffy Barkocy)
- Newsgroups: soc.bi
- Subject: treating men as sex toys
- Date: 24 Dec 92 11:40:49
- Organization: Natural Language Incorporated
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- I keep running into this idea, which seems very strange to me. Most
- recently, I heard a man on a mailing list say it: he will have sex with
- men when he just wants sex, but he will only have emotional
- relationships with women. I've heard other men say this and some of the
- postings about male-male sex in other cultures seem to say something
- similar. I've also heard some women with this idea that men are fine,
- exciting, etc., for sex, but you can't really get emotionally close to
- them they way you can with a woman.
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- For me, this is not true at all; the emotional interactions seem to be
- pretty identical. I know that in our society men are discouraged from
- expressing "soft" emotions, which could hinder forming close emotional
- bonds, particularly with other men who are doing (or rather avoiding)
- the same thing. Nonetheless, I believe that men and women have the same
- set of possible emotions, the same capacity for strong emotions, the
- same ability to love or get hurt or care about someone.
-
- Without getting into "what is *really* bisexual," my personal definition
- of bisexual is not simply having sex with both men and women, but being
- *interested* in both men and women, as people, as emotional partners, as
- well as as sexual partners. I wouldn't feel bisexual if I was just
- using men for sex...they'd just be a rather elaborate sort of dildo, and
- I don't think I would be bisexual if I was only having relationships (of
- any sort) with women and just had a large collection of dildos...*grin*.
-
- To me, this concept (men as sex toys) is very similar to the "hot bi
- babes" idea, where the women have a sexual relationship, but the real
- focus is on their relationship with the man.
-
- Is this something anyone else has noticed? Something anyone can
- explain?
-
- Muffy
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- Muffy Barkocy | ~Can you tell me how much bleeding/it
- muffy@mica.berkeley.edu | takes to fill a word with meaning and/
- "amorous inclinations"? Aha! I'm | how much how much death it takes/to give
- not "not straight," I'm *inclined*.| a slogan breath?~ - Bruce Cockburn
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