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- From: cjmchale@dsg.cs.tcd.ie (Ciaran McHale)
- Subject: Re: Understanding
- Message-ID: <1992Dec23.144201.6988@dsg.cs.tcd.ie>
- Organization: DSG, Dept. of Computer Science, Trinity College Dublin
- References: <1992Dec20.004841.28248@dsg.cs.tcd.ie> <1992Dec20.192301.1250@infodev.cam.ac.uk> <1992Dec21.152115.510@dsg.cs.tcd.ie> <1992Dec22.141030.16600@thelema.uucp> <92357.110706SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 14:42:01 GMT
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- In <92357.110706SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA>
- SAUNDRSG@QUCDN.QueensU.CA (Graydon) writes:
- >[offers some tactical advice]
- >the word 'feminist' tends to make most men defensive. [...]
- >There's a certain element of the male experience of feminist philosphy
- >that goes 'this is going to tell me I'm deficent in painful detail - ack!';
-
- I find this interesting because it suggests that the men who view
- feminism in this light think of feminism as being anti-male, as
- distinct from it being anti-patriarchy. Indeed, some of the threads
- here recently mentioned this distinction and the confusion over it.
-
- I think an interesting parallel to this is the way sometimes the "moral
- majority" somehow think (or at least proclaim) that the GLB movements
- are anti-heterosexual as opposed to them being anti-heterosexist. This
- idea crops up fairly often in the guise of "gays are trying to recruit
- our children" (which, of course, also plays upon the "gays are child
- molestors" stereotype) and also as "gays will destroy the institution
- of marriage" (presumably by "recruiting" straight folk who otherwise
- might have gotten married).
-
- Two questions spring to mind about this:
-
- 1. Does anybody have further examples of non-X folk thinking that X-folk
- are anti-(non-X), e.g., gays are against heterosexuality, feminism is
- anti-male, blacks are anti-white? (I am wondering how widespread this
- idea might be.)
-
- 2. Does anybody have any ideas about why such notions exist? Is it a
- result of poor communication resulting in fundamental misunderstandings?
- Or is it that the bigots are spreading misinformation to create fear of
- change?
-
-
- Ciaran.
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- ---- Ciaran McHale (cjmchale@dsg.cs.tcd.ie)
- \bi/ Department of Computer Science, Trinity College, Dublin 2, Ireland.
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