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- From: fwi@cco.caltech.edu (Bill Irion)
- Newsgroups: soc.bi
- Subject: Re: coming out to family??
- Date: 23 Dec 1992 13:05:30 GMT
- Organization: California Institute of Technology, Pasadena
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- rks@cscns.com (gisle j benediktsson) writes:
-
- >Bill Irion (fwi@cco.caltech.edu) wrote:
-
-
- [...]
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- >: [...] Speaking for myself, I badly
- >: want my family's acceptance. I do give them that power, because I love
- >: them and they love me back. Anything that would lessen their love or
- >: fundamentally alter it is a sacrifice that I, and I would think many
- >: others, would not take lightly. In a nutshell, I don't want to hide
- >: it from them and I don't want to lose their love. Are you mystified
- >: about me now?
-
- >Yes. If you have those doubts, why set yourself up?
-
- >I differ with you in that I don't feel that *not* sharing private
- >information is dishonest. I think we all have a right to our privacy.
-
- >: Different people need different things from their family, whatever
- >: form that family has. There's often no rational explanation for what
- >: people want from their folks, but then, no explanation is needed.
-
- >If what you want is reasonably what you can expect, it makes a lot of
- >sense. If, on the other hand, one can reasonably expect to be ridiculed,
- >rejected or otherwise made to feel less than respected, then it is
- >self-sabotage.
-
- Well, I don't know if self-sabotage is the word I'd use, but I've heard
- good coming-out stories and bad ones, and a "bad" coming out can be
- emotionally devastating. But there are a couple of issues I think
- that come to mind, in my case at least. One is that I don't really
- know what to expect from family members when I come out to them. It
- might be okay, or it might be terrible. But what seems plausible is
- that it might be lousy at first and then they'll come around. Who
- knows? Okay, so why take the risk? I suppose the second issue to me is that
- I have to be true to myself. To deny or conceal something from my
- family that has a major impact on my life has a cost too. You're right
- in that we do have a right to privacy, and nobody _has_ to tell their
- folks, but I think the obligation to do so has to be evaluated
- individually. There are no right or wrong decisions for something as
- personal as that, particularly in the case where the outcome can't be
- predicted.
-
-
- >Speaking strictly for myself, I have done a hell of a lot of work to
- >accept myself -- and the biggest hurdle was understanding that some
- >people will not -- and that has to be okay. For me to stay healthy
- >(something I have acquired since leaving my family), I have to stay
- >very clear on that. And another one of the biggest hurdles was admitting
- >to myself that things weren't going to change -- and sometimes forgiveness
- >means "we don't do well together".
-
- No doubt that's often true. Acceptance of oneself is something to be
- proud of. Sometimes that does mean cutting some ties. But that can
- be difficult if you're just not sure that they won't change.
-
- >My post was intended for those who have real fears and doubts about
- >coming out to their families. It is my way of saying "you don't have
- >to." If it is going to, in any way, impinge on your happiness or well
- >being -- tell 'em to fuck off.
-
- Well, if my worst case scenario came to pass, I'd cry my eyes out for
- a few days, tell them I love them anyway, and get on with my life. Then
- I'd tell them to wise up. But, Gisle, who knows? Someday I might take
- your advice.
-
- It's been a great 1992. Thank you to the many folks on soc.bi
- who helped me come out. This place has been a real pleasure. I gotta
- catch a plane. Happy holidays to all, and see ya in '93.
-
- Hugs,
- Bill
-
-
- --
- Bill Irion fwi@cco.caltech.edu
- "Good manners and bad breath will get you nowhere" - Elvis Costello
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