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- From: bbooth@x400gate.bnr.ca (Brad Booth)
- Subject: Re: Attack of the Seperatists
- Message-ID: <1992Dec21.160211.22352@bcrka451.bnr.ca>
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- Reply-To: bbooth@x400gate.bnr.ca (Brad Booth)
- Organization: BNR, Ottawa, ON, Canada
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- Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 16:02:11 GMT
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- Ciaran McHale wrote:
- > I disagree that that any X movement is defined in terms of non-X. For
- > example, I don't think that any GLB (or a subset thereof) movement is
- > defined in terms of straight people. Similarly, I agree with Iseult that
- > feminism is not, and cannot be, defined in terms of men.
-
- Maybe I'm not making myself clear, the GLB or feminism movement is
- a movement for/about GLB or women, BUT the existence of that movement
- would not occured if it were not for an oppressive group, straight or
- men. You don't see a straight or masculine movement, because they're
- not oppressed and therefore have no reason to exist.
-
- > I think Iseult's point (and I hope she will correct me if I am wrong)
- > is that her becomming more integrated in the lesbian community is not
- > due to an increased homoerotic attraction (a positive reason) but
- > rather due to increased negative feelings towards men (a negative
- > reason).
-
- I guess my interpretation was that her increased involvement in the
- lesbian community was due to a sense of support, friendship and
- security that she doesn't get in her other community. This in turn
- lead to her distancing herself from men (but not due to negative
- reasons).
-
- > This is quite contrary to what Sara Hopkins said a while back:
- >
- > Why the fuck can't it be recognised that women love women
- > through *positive* reasons of loving women, not necessarily
- > negative reasons of hating men.
-
- Great quote... one that Diane, Mimi and myself live daily. :)
-
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