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- From: mara@panix.com (Mara Chibnik)
- Newsgroups: soc.bi,soc.motss
- Subject: Re: Liberty (was something relevant about CO-2 long ago...)
- Message-ID: <1992Dec21.114848.11713@panix.com>
- Date: 21 Dec 92 11:48:48 GMT
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- dbshapco@napier.uwaterloo.ca (Brad Shapcott) writes:
- [ much deleted ]
-
- >I can't *see* the point of feminism if it isn't to clue in the type
- >of person I used to be, and then to continue educating the type of
- >person I've become.
-
- And this is a lot of the problem.
-
- Feminism is not (especially) designed as a re-education program for
- men, but as an empowerment program for women. It is not my job, as
- a feminist, to use my time and energy in the education of clueless
- men, although I have been known to spend considerable time doing
- just that when I encounter a man who shows some signs of being
- responsive.
-
- I'm not trying to say that "feminism" shouldn't educate men (as well
- as women). I'm also not saying that "feminists" shouldn't educate
- men (as well as women). I'm saying that the problem with what Brad
- has written is that he's gone so far as to say that he cannot see
- any other important purpose to feminism. That's not all that far
- from dismissing women's reactions about the so-called "inclusive
- masculine" pronouns.
-
- I've already written one rather angry letter to Brad. I'll try not
- to write any more to or in answer to him. But I am really very
- angry, and the main reason I deleted the rest of his article is that
- he goes on to say some stuff that offended me as deeply as anything
- I've ever seen in soc.motss.
- --
-
- Mara Chibnik
- mara@panix.com Life is too important to be taken seriously.
-