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- From: diego@minerva.st.dsi.unimi.it (Diego Montefusco)
- Newsgroups: sci.virtual-worlds
- Subject: Re: TECH: Amiga VR?
- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 92 01:57:11 CET
- Organization: University of Washington
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- In <9212120135.AA04693@ghost.dsi.unimi.it>, on Dec 10, you wrote:
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- > > For $5000 you can get a 486-33 with an i860 math coprocessor which will
- > > give you as much computing power as your average Cray. That would be more
- > > than enough for any home-VR app you could think of. You culd probably rig
- > > it up with a 24-bit graphics card and you'd be set, making the Amiga with a
- > > video-toaster look like a toy (no flames, please! This isn't in the realm
- > > of PC/Amiga war, rather co-processor power!)
- >
- > But...for about the same $5000 you can get an Amiga 4000, with a 68040,
- > AGA chipset, a Video Toaster (24-bit capability, video quality, NTSC
- > or PAL output, dedicated graphics coprocessors over and above the Amiga's
- > dedicated graphics coprocessors), math coprocessor, 4-channel stereo sound,
- > etc. This is not intended as a flame, merely as information. NASA uses
- > Toasters to produce their rendered videos, the Toaster has been used to
- > produce special effects in numerous TV shows (unsolved mysteries, the new FOX
- > space saga (not Deep Space Nine, but the other one), a VR game show on
- > Nickelodeon, MTV has used them, the White House has used them to edit and
- > compile video news briefs, etc. etc. etc.). The Toaster also comes with
- > a very powerful 3d rendering package called Lightwave that surpasses any
- > other home computer rendering package I've seen in both speed and
- > flexibility. Combine this with innumerable video (live and canned)
- > manipulation tools, and NTSC output, and you've got a very powerful
- > VR package. You forgot to mention that the PC setup described above
- > will still require a lot of software, a sound card, video accelerator,
- > extra memory, video capability, genlock, etc. The amiga setup
- > above is pretty much 'plug'n'play', and already has all these features
- > and more.
-
- Probably nobody told you what a VR system is: we are not talking about
- nice videos, good rendering packages or manipulating images to make
- impressive video effects.
-
- We ARE TALKING about REAL TIME rendering, i.e. a lot of frames per
- second! You don't need software: you HAVE TO WRITE it. I don't care
- anything about Lightwave, it can't be of any help. You need RAW
- COMPUTATION power and, here I agree, a 68040 can DO something, but if
- you go on talking about Toaster and Lightwave it is obvious you don't
- understand what a VR system should be. Sorry.
-
- I do have an Amiga (I used to do some 3D graphics, before moving to a
- Mac w/ Renderman, now I just use it for e-mailing) and I know a lot of
- people who own one. You all suffer from a totemic-cult syndrome (kind
- of "if-god- was-a-program-He'd-run-on-an-Amiga"), and you always jump
- and shout if anyone says Amiga isn't the PERFECT machine for anything.
-
- I am not saying WHICH machine is better for VR, I am just saying you
- can take all the Toasters and Lightwaves, "plug'n'play", and all the
- stories about the Amiga-inside-the-Virtuality-machine (true but it
- doesn't render a pixel!) and throw them OUT-OF-THE-WINDOW.
-
- This IS intended to be a FLAME: I am bored of silly argumentations
- about WHY the Amiga is perfect for VR. C'mon boys invent something
- else... Have you ever wondered why Sense8 or VREAM or Dimension have
- developed NOTHING on Amiga?
-
- > Anyone interested in arguing this further, however, should probably
- > take it to comp.sys.amiga.*, since this type of debate is constantly
- > raging on one of those groups in one form or another.
-
- I will NEVER!
-
- Diego Montefusco
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