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- From: BrianT@cup.portal.com (Brian Stuart Thorn)
- Newsgroups: sci.space
- Subject: Re: Latest Pegasus news?
- Message-ID: <72528@cup.portal.com>
- Date: Mon, 28 Dec 92 21:39:28 PST
- Organization: The Portal System (TM)
- References: <1992Dec27.164247.20711@ke4zv.uucp>
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- >> That was those despicable fools at NASA doing this.
- >
- >here you lost me. You seem to live in a very black and white world. You
- >assume that since I don't support everything NASA does (even its mistakes)
- >that I must oppose everything NASA does.
-
- I went off the deep end on that one and hereby apologize, Allen.
- Maybe it's because I don't recall you ever saying a kind word about
- NASA or one of its programs.
-
- >This is not the case. There is lots of great stuff going on at NASA. I
- >criticize the unproductive things NASA does so that we can have more of
- >the good stuff. Why does that bother you so much?
-
- Because very seldom does anyone ever mention the great stuff
- going on at NASA.
-
- >> Just because NASA isn't deep in development of a new space booster
- >> (why bother when SDIO already is)
- >
- >NASA shouldn't be developing OR operating any operational space transport
- >system. That is outside its charter and is ultimately wasteful and harmful
- >to lower cost solutions.
-
- Agreed but with one exception. Presently there is no means other
- than Shuttle to send people into space. When MacDac or someone
- else develops a system to send people into space, and a new firm
- or organization gets going to do the dirty work of launching, then
- and only then will I be in favor of kicking NASA out of the manned
- space transportation arena.
-
- >The problem is that you seem to think asking the question: "is
- >there a cheaper way to do this" is treason.
-
- No, I think that urging the elimination of our only manned space
- transport system before a proven replacement is available is
- contrary to the cause of space exploration and development. When
- someone shows me that they have a workable, cheaper manned space
- system, then I'll go along with them. But remember, Space Shuttle
- looked cheaper and faster than the alternatives early in its
- design phase, too. The transition from paper to flight article
- seems to have a serious negative effect on launch systems. Asking
- if there is a cheaper way to do this is a good idea. Saying, "this
- system which we plan to fly in five or six years definitely will
- be cheaper than Shuttle" must be carefully considered.
-
- >As an engineer I ask myself that same question every single day. Why do you
- >think NASA shouldn't worry about the costs?
- >
- >> It's not fair to denounce NASA for
- >> laying the foundation while praising OSC and McDAC for erecting the
- >> skyscrapers.
-
- >As to denouncing NASA, I praise NASA when they lay the foundation. I
- >condemn them when they prevent the skyscraper from being built.
-
- But didn't you just say that NASA should not be operating a space
- transport system? If this is so, then how is NASA preventing private
- industry from building said skyscraper?
-
- -Brian
-
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- -Diane Chambers, "Cheers"
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