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- From: Dr. Norman J. LaFave <lafave@ial4.jsc.nasa.gov>
- Subject: Re: Justification for the Space Program
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- In article <1992Dec28.172419.1305@cs.rochester.edu> Paul Dietz,
- dietz@cs.rochester.edu writes:
- >The differences between the age of exploration and today are
- >considerable. The raw mineral and agricultural products (and slaves)
- >that profited the explorers of that age are a much smaller fraction of
- >GDPs today.
-
- Since the whole arguement is based on unforeseen long-term benefits,
- which may or may not be animal, mineral, or vegetable,
- this "difference" is neither valid nor pertanent to Herman's point.
- Furthermore, raw materials may be a smaller fraction of GDPs, but
- they are not inconsequential to the health of an economy. Furthermore,
- in some present-day economies, oil is most of the GDP. Finally, if
- a naturally-occuring rare or unknown substance (or microgravity
- manufactured substance) of great applicability
- were found/produced in space (or on another body), it
- could result in a shift in the
- importance of raw materials to the GDP. I know that you are going
- to now ask "what material?". However, since Herman's arguement
- pertains to unknown benefits and the danger of lack of foresight,
- it is a valid arguement.
-
- Even as we speak, satellite weather/soil monitoring and satellite
- communication and navigation, which not very long
- ago were unforeseen applications, have changed our world. Some of
- the benefits you claim will never come are already here, right under
- your nose. Note too, that they are not animal, vegetable, or mineral.
-
- >
- >More generally, arguments by analogy are essentially circular. You
- >have to assume that the analogy is valid to believe the argument. I
- >don't see any reason to do that here.
-
- That is because you are being really short-sighted. Paul, are you so
- sure you can see our future well enough that you can discount this
- arguement? Can you tell me any compelling reason to believe we
- will gain nothing from aggressive space exploration and development
- based on fact rather than speculation?
-
- >There are contrary analogies:
- >for example, exploration of Antarctica has been of little practical
- >benefit to the exploring countries (although it has been of scientific
- >benefit to humanity as a whole).
-
- Very bad example. Antarctica has remained undeveloped for essentially
- political reasons. I can't remenber the treaty name off the top of my
- head, but it has reserved Antarctica as a wildlife reserve and research
- laboratory. There have been challenges to this treaty
- recently because it is believed that there may be huge
- caches of minerals to be found there.
- Even if Antarctica were open to development, it may take
- awhile for the benefits to become apparent. However, since the question
- being debated here is long-term benefits, there is no reason to put
- stringent time limits on those benefits coming to full fruition.
-
- Norman
-
- Dr. Norman J. LaFave
- Senior Engineer
- Lockheed Engineering and Sciences Company
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- When the going gets weird, the weird turn pro
- Hunter Thompson
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