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- From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
- Subject: Re: Stupid Shut Cost arguements (was Re: Terminal Velocity of DCX?
- Message-ID: <1992Dec28.172953.26161@ke4zv.uucp>
- Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
- Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
- References: <STEINLY.92Dec23102952@topaz.ucsc.edu> <1992Dec23.191306.6705@iti.org> <STEINLY.92Dec23121415@topaz.ucsc.edu> <1992Dec23.212100.18194@iti.org>
- Date: Mon, 28 Dec 1992 17:29:53 GMT
- Lines: 44
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- In article <1992Dec23.212100.18194@iti.org> aws@iti.org (Allen W. Sherzer) writes:
- >In article <STEINLY.92Dec23121415@topaz.ucsc.edu> steinly@topaz.ucsc.edu (Steinn Sigurdsson) writes:
- >>Really, did Boeing pay for the development of winglets (those little
- >>dinky wingtip things the latest models have)? ...
- >
- >Look, if your trying to say that research has been done in the past and
- >that research should be treated as a sunk cost, then you are partly
- >correct. The concept is correct but the word is 'depreciated'.
- >
- >Sure there is lots of depreciated costs going into airliner development.
- >Much of that does come from government funded research. I have no problem
- >with that. You will note that I didn't say the money used to build the
- >X-24, an important vehicle for Shuttle, should be charged to Shuttle.
- >
- >The fact remains however that we did spend $34 billion to develop Shuttle
- >and that cost should be accounted for. If we are going to pick and choose
- >what costs we include and which we don't then why not say Shuttle is
- >free?
- >
- >>for the development costs of the basic jetliner airbody designs
- >>or did they sink it to military contracts?
- >
- >To some extent I'm sure they did. This happens all the time however
- >in the civilian world. The first signal processing chips where built
- >for customers willing to pay development. They where then sold to
- >whoever. The point is that unlike Shuttle, all costs where accounted
- >for.
-
- Shuttle's costs were all accounted for too. The customer, the US
- taxpayer, wanted R&D done to develop a reusable spacecraft. NASA
- did it, and that public domain database of technologies is what
- the taxpayer got for his money, not bent metal. NASA's prime mission
- is R&D. The customer wanted an operational vehicle, and NASA contracted
- to have them built. NASA is not supposed to be in the fabrication business.
- The Orbiters only cost the bent metal cost, administrative overhead,
- and contractor profit, Rockwell says that's $1.5 billion per each.
-
- Gary
-
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