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- From: gary@ke4zv.uucp (Gary Coffman)
- Newsgroups: sci.space
- Subject: Re: satellite costs etc.
- Message-ID: <1992Dec27.163935.20473@ke4zv.uucp>
- Date: 27 Dec 92 16:39:35 GMT
- Article-I.D.: ke4zv.1992Dec27.163935.20473
- References: <1992Dec14.221347.3359@iti.org> <1992Dec16.092029.27518@ke4zv.uucp> <1992Dec16.202219.2063@eng.umd.edu> <1gvlmnINN9c@mirror.digex.com> <72109@cup.portal.com> <BzMwDx.KGw@zoo.toronto.edu> <1992Dec23.111923.22269@ke4zv.uucp> <BzqBvs.J8H@zoo.toronto.edu>
- Reply-To: gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman)
- Organization: Destructive Testing Systems
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- In article <BzqBvs.J8H@zoo.toronto.edu> henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes:
- >In article <1992Dec23.111923.22269@ke4zv.uucp> gary@ke4zv.UUCP (Gary Coffman) writes:
- >>... A ten year life zero defects
- >>GEO comsat like K2 is much cheaper than a 1 year life package
- >>that costs 20 times less. That's because most of the investment is
- >>not in the satellite, it's in the Earth based terminals that use it.
- >
- >I don't grasp this argument. It's the same Earth-based terminals either way.
- >If you're providing a service, you plan to do so over more than one satellite
- >lifetime, either way. Twenty years of service is cheaper with mass-produced
- >short-life satellites, even with your (fairly unfavorable) assumptions.
- >
- >>... Since the satellite represents a single point failure node...
- >
- >This is your assumption, not a self-evident fact. Communications networks
- >normally have redundancy to cover predictable single-point failures.
- >Even today's gold-plated satellite networks do, despite the expense.
-
- It's the network reconfiguration costs that get you. When NBC had to
- reconfigure from K2 to SBS 3 due to a control failure on K2, it cost
- NBC $150,000 a *minute* for 4.5 hours until the major ground systems
- were re-aimed. Smaller markets didn't get back on line for over 8.5
- hours. That was only 223 ground stations that had to be repositioned.
- For many large corporate data networks, the number of terminals to be
- re-aimed climbs into the thousands. Most ground stations are manually
- pointed and require service personnel to visit the site and re-align
- the dish.
-
- Now *scheduled* transfers can be handled in off peak times, but still
- require those personnel to visit all those sites. Doing that 10 times
- instead of 1 get's expensive fast. Doing it *unscheduled* because of
- a failure of the cheapsat, can be really expensive if it only happens
- once.
-
- >>... and since for most orbits
- >>the satellites aren't retrievable or repairable, and DC won't change
- >>that...
- >
- >Again, your assumption, not a self-evident fact. Cheap launches change
- >almost everything, including the feasibility of retrieval and repair.
-
- I wasn't aware that DC was planned to have a GEO capability, or a large
- enough cargo bay to retrieve a major comsat.
-
- Gary
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