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- From: dietz@cs.rochester.edu (Paul Dietz)
- Newsgroups: sci.space,talk.politics.space
- Subject: Re: Justification for the Space Program
- Message-ID: <1992Dec25.182810.20775@cs.rochester.edu>
- Date: 25 Dec 92 18:28:10 GMT
- References: <Bzt8Dw.Fzs@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> <1992Dec25.130315.12336@cs.rochester.edu> <Bztt8t.9L8@mentor.cc.purdue.edu>
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- In article <Bztt8t.9L8@mentor.cc.purdue.edu> hrubin@pop.stat.purdue.edu (Herman Rubin) writes:
-
- >>world is not completely perfect. As I said, ON AVERAGE, the world is
- >>getting better. Fewer people (in absolute numbers, not just as a
- >>fraction of the world's population) are living in countries that
- >>experience famines that did a generation ago. On average, people are
- >>getting more nutrition, and living longer.
-
- >Baloney. The US economy is in a shambles, and will probably continue
- >to go downhill.
-
- The US economy is growing, not "going downhill". Manufacturing
- productivity is growing smartly. Moreover, the US is not the world.
- Less developed countries can and do use technologies that have already
- been worked out by the west; naturally, the tendency is for the
- underdogs to catch up, if the mechanisms for wealth creation are in
- place.
-
- Consider China. The private sector there will grow more than 20% this
- year, and exceed the size of the public sector; aggregate GNP growth
- will be in double digits. At current growth rates, China's GNP could
- exceed the entire OECD's by the year 2010. The per capita GNP could
- reach current US levels within a generation, at current rates of
- growth.
-
-
- >>I cannot imagine what you are trying to prove by this quote. Let's
- >>consider a world with 10,000 1 GWe reactors. It will consume
- >>somewhere less than 20,000 tons of uranium per year. Those 10^14 tons
- >>would last 5 billion years at that rate.
-
- >But we cannot build nuclear plants which are safer than the coal plants.
-
- Bullshit. Existing coal plants kill more people than existing
- nuclear plants, and we can build nuclear plants that have accident
- rates much lower than the current generation, low as they are.
-
-
- > Communism may be passe in the former Soviet Union and Eastern Europe,
- > but some of the worst aspects of it are pervading Western Europe and
- > the United States. What else can one call the government blocking of
- > human endeavor, including going to space? Name ONE sufficiently large
- > (to accomplish) country in which the individual with enterprise is not
- > boxed in by the socialists who insist that the wealth must be shared.
-
- Capitalism is quite robust, and can create wealth even in unfree
- countries, as the example of China demonstrates. Again, your argument
- confuses perfection (a probably unrealizable libertarian utopia) with
- progress (a world in which the aggregate statistics are improving).
-
- Paul F. Dietz
- dietz@cs.rochester.edu
-