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- From: mll@aio.jsc.nasa.gov (Mark Littlefield)
- Subject: Re: EVA troubles (Was Re: ground vs. flight
- Message-ID: <1992Dec24.194218.10823@aio.jsc.nasa.gov>
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- References: <BzqKKM.LJ3@zoo.toronto.edu> <=hv29vp@rpi.edu> <Bzr29K.5GB@zoo.toronto.edu> <j6v2=m#@rpi.edu>
- Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 19:42:18 GMT
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- In article <j6v2=m#@rpi.edu>, strider@clotho.acm.rpi.edu (Greg Moore) writes:
- |> In article <Bzr29K.5GB@zoo.toronto.edu> henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes:
- |> >In article <=hv29vp@rpi.edu> strider@clotho.acm.rpi.edu (Greg Moore) writes:
- |>
- |> >> Also, given that the bottom of the shuttle is covered with
- |> >>tile, can the orbiter exert a Y+ (i.e. vertically up) translation?
- |> >
- |> >There aren't any RCS nozzles on the orbiter's belly, but both the forward
- |> >and aft RCS systems have nozzles angled down so that they can (somewhat
- |> >inefficiently) thrust upward.
- |> >
- |> Ok, taht's what I thought. So I'd assume you'd want to do as
- |> little Y+ translations as possible. Anyone know the approach path
- |> for the orbiter? Will it approach cargo bay first, or will it attempt
- |> to do a partial "flyby" where it approaches nose first (i.e X+ translation).
- |> I'd assume the latter, to safe fuel, and to allow it to "float by' if
- |> something goes wrong. With a Y+ translation if an 'up" thruster
- |> (to stop the Y+ movement) fails, you risk running the shuttle into the
- |> orbiter. With the X+, if something fails, you just float on by. If
- |> it works, you simply stop 15'-20' away and let the arm pull oyu in the
- |> rest of the way.
-
- First off, as a data point, "Y+" is not "vertical up". There are two
- coordinate systems that both the shuttle and SSF use: LVLH and
- vehicle body. LVLH, or Local Vertical, Local Horizontal is a
- coordinate system has X in the direction of flight, Y to the right of
- the direction of flight, and Z toward the center of the earth. This
- is different from the orbiter or SSF body coordinate systems. For the
- orbiter the body coordinate system is X along the nose, Y out the
- right wing, and Z out of the bottom. For SSF it's X out of the US
- lab/hab side, Y to the right solar panels, and Z to form the right
- hand coordinate system Also note that the SSF body coordinate system
- is nominally oriented with LVLH.
-
- The orbiter can, in fact, thrust in the -Z "body vertical" direction.
- Not working in orbiter systems I don't have the details handy.
- However, there are a set of RCS jets on the orbiters nose that point
- at about Z+-30 degrees. When these jets are fired, it pitches the
- orbiter (positive Y rotation). If I am not mistaken there are also Z
- pointing thrusters near the tail.
-
- As far as docking/berthing the orbiter to SSF. As of ~March 1992
- (when I took a set of SSF orientation classes), the decision to dock
- or berth the orbiter had not been made. At the time things seemed to
- be leaning to berthing (that is, moving the orbiter close to SSF and
- letting the RMS move the orbiter to attach to SSF, rather than just
- letting the orbiter slide up and mate like Apollo). My guess is now
- that with the studies of the Russian androgynous docking adapter, that
- may change. If anyone has heard anything new, let me know.
-
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