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- Subject: ASTM, Saturn and MOL (Was Re: MOL)
- Date: 22 Dec 1992 14:15 CST
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- In article <BzMwJK.KKG@zoo.toronto.edu>, henry@zoo.toronto.edu (Henry Spencer) writes...
- >In article <1h2egpINNmk9@mirror.digex.com> prb@access.digex.com (Pat) writes:
- >>>>You heard wrong. One MOL flew (unmanned).
- >>>Could somebody provide data ?
- >>
- >>According to a friend of mine who was a MOL engineer. One MOL flew
- >>Manned. only it was called ASTP.
- >
- >He's pulling your leg. ASTP involved one Apollo, one Soyuz, and a docking
- >module. The docking module might perhaps have inherited a bit of technology
- >from MOL, but no way was it a MOL. For one thing, it was a fraction of the
- >size.
- >--
-
- I think the poster is talking about the ASTM (Apollo Space Telescope Mount)
- From what I remember reading about the Skylab construction, some MOL elements
- were used for the ASTM.
-
- Also I have been doing some sleuthing and have found a few details abou the
- Saturn I series. There is actually three distinct vehicles in the Saturn I
- series. The Saturn C-1 was basically a 2 stage vehicle that used the Centaur
- first generation as its second stage. I do not know yet whether this is the
- six engine configuration Henry talked about or not.
-
- Then there is the Saturn 1. This beast had several changes relative to the C-1.
- This including adding the fins that you see on the televised Saturn 1 launches.
- This vehicle had the stage mentioned before, whether a six engine centaur or
- whatever, and the Command and service module as the payload to to a suborbital
- trajectory. This combination was unable to boost the 45,000 lbs CSM to orbit.
-
- Finally there is the famous Saturn 1B that carried the manned Apollo CSM/LM to
- orbit. This configuration also carried the Saturn V, SIVB stage, which is the
- third stage of full up Saturn V. This combination was able to boost the
- full Saturn V payload to LEO altitude of 105 nautical miles. This is the booster
- that was used for the Apollo 7 mission. I forget whether it was used for
- Apollo 9 or whether that was a full up Saturn V. All of the Skylab Apollo manned
- craft and the Apollo Soyuz Test Project used the Full up Saturn 1B. Remember
- that the ASTP mission carried a Apollo CSM (45,000 lbs), the docking module
- (15,000 lbs?) into the 51 degree Soyuz orbit. Not bad, Titan IV today could not
- do that. Environmentally friendly too, relative to the Titan SRB's.
-
- I will post more information as I get it or dig it up
-
- Dennis, University of Alabama in Huntsville.
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