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- From: zellner@stsci.edu
- Subject: blue skies, again
- Message-ID: <1993Jan1.201550.1@stsci.edu>
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- Date: Sat, 2 Jan 1993 01:15:50 GMT
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- In article <1992Dec27.190955.15090@panix.com>, carlf@panix.com (Carl Fink) writes:
- |> In <1hk42sINN34t@gap.caltech.edu> carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU (Carl J Lydick)
- writes:
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- |> When you see a blue sky to the east near sunset, you're talking about
- |> >radiation (glowing, to use your term).
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- I'm not sure what the poster actually had in mind here. From a clear-sky
- location you can often see the earth's shadow coming up in the east at
- sunset. It isn't completely black because of multiple scattering, ground
- reflection, etc., but it can be quite noticeably darker than the rest of the
- sky.
-
- |> Um, no. Actually you're seeing neither radiated nor refracted light.
- |> You're seeing *scattered* light. The light travels in a straight-line path
- |> to the air over your Eastern horizon, then encounters some dust particles
- |> and is reflected back into your eye.
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- > Two points: 1) Blue skylight is dominated by scattering from air molecules,
- > not by scattering from dust;
-
- Correct.
-
- > and 2) scattered light is radiated light (it's
- > absorbed and re-radiated by the scatterer).
-
- I have to disagree here, unless you want to make it a matter of semantics.
- When light is diffracted by an edge or reflected by a mirror, do you call that
- absorption and re-radiation? In the Huygens sense, OK, but it has nothing to
- do with atomic energy levels or re-thermalization, etc., it's just physical
- optics. When water waves are scattered around some obstacle, do you call
- that absorption and re-radiation?
-
- Ben
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