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- From: ames!FNALD.FNAL.GOV!DROEGE
- Subject: Status #5 Cell 4A3
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- Sender: scott@zorch.SF-Bay.ORG (Scott Hazen Mueller)
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- Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1992 20:59:37 GMT
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- Status #5 Cell 4A3
-
- We have now run cell 4A3 for 184 hours (yesterday's post said about 200 but
- that was not looking at the log book). For the last 60 hours or so the
- calorimeter has been in balance at 7.250 watts with an rms balance noise of
- 0.006 watts rms using the one hour average data. Using the one minute data,
- the rms value of the variation is 0.025 watts. To noise experts, this
- probably tells all, but not to me.
-
- In any case, since 60 hours is long compared to the primary calorimeter time
- constant of 1/4 hour, we think this is the true calorimeter balance point and
- the calibration taken as 7.788 watts has just changed for some reason
- (probably the large changes in temperature have changed the gain of the
- thermoelectric devices).
-
- We will now sit here until we see something or give up.
-
- Gas continues to increase in the motor driven syringe, indicating evolved
- Oxygen from absorbed Deuterium until we learn better. Presently we have
- accumulated 170.4 cc for a 2.69/1 D/Pd ratio. I just report what I measure
- and how I do it folks, I make no claims about it being right. You may
- remember earlier I reported that we were over 200 cc for over 3/1 ratio, but
- various experiments to try to verify the loading caused a loss of loading -
- but with some assurance that the measurements are correct. The structure of
- the gas absorption looks just like the experiments that I have done on the
- bench with open cells where the gas can be seen to be boiling out of the Pd
- cathode during discharge conditions, and when there are just no bubbles at the
- cathode during absorption.
-
- >From time to time there are also the little time constant bumps where it looks
- like the cell suddenly gets hot. However, since this is the observation of
- noise, I can also find spots where it looks like the cathode suddenly gets
- cold with a time constant. I believe the positive pulses prevail, and
- remember analysis of previous runs does show an asymmetry in the delta
- temperature distribution.
-
- Because of the problems with this run, we are re-designing the Mark III. The
- plan is to put a conduction calorimeter (like the device used by Appleby)
- inside of our null balance calorimeter. Then we will run the null balance
- calorimeter at a constant 0 C, and warm up the experiment to the desired
- temperature inside the constant 0 C environment. We already know by
- experiment that this will make the null balance calorimeter quieter, so
- everything should get better. By having two calorimeters making the same
- measurement, we can check one against the other. While the conduction
- calorimeter will be less accurate, we should still be able to do 0.1% on the
- cross check. To those wondering why it takes so long to get it right,
- remember that the Wheatstone bridge was not a very precise device for a long
- time. Even in the 1950's long after bridges were in use, I did some work on
- precision resistor stability at NADC Johnsville. Over a several year
- measurement program the precision wire wound resistors we were testing would
- wander around 0.1% or so. So I do not feel so bad, even with a 7% change. I
- just have to learn how to do it right. There is plenty of indication of long
- periods of stability. I just have to learn what can cause a change.
-
- Tom Droege
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