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- From: sarfatti@well.sf.ca.us (Jack Sarfatti)
- Subject: Professionalism
- Message-ID: <C00Cuo.AE0@well.sf.ca.us>
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- Organization: Whole Earth 'Lectronic Link
- Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1992 06:32:47 GMT
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- I deliberately did not post The Gladstone Report on this conference as it is
- more appropriate to other conferences since it is more than physics - it is
- literature, politics - the Glass Bead Game. McInnes seemed compelled to post
- it here. All the historical facts asserted in it are true - including my
- weird experience as a kid in 1952 with the metallic voice claiming to be a
- computer on a spacecraft from the future. My childhood friend Al Brough of
- the New York Police Department Homocide DIvision (Snyder St Station) may
- well remember it as he was in my apartment within minutes of that call.
- Exactly, what the call was is anybody's guess - if it was not what it
- claimed to be then it was some adult messing with a 12 year old's mind - but
- the interesting coincidence is how it ties into the Uri Geller caper twenty
- years or more later including the Puthoff remote viewing experiments at SRI
- including an incident with the late Brendan O Regan, Barbara Honneger (of
- October Surprise fame) and the alleged psychic - not Geller, not Pat Price,
- his name escapes me for the moment - in which the cold metallic voice
- appeared again claiming to be a computer on board a space-craft from the
- future- not to mention Andrija Puharich's written accounts of such stuff and
- the Jenny and the Nine incidents at Esalen during the visits of the Soviet
- Elite before the fall of the old-line Soviet Regime. In the Alice and
- Wonderland world of covert intelligence these things may all be connected in
- a very meaningful way. But this is not the proper subject matter of this
- conference - important and interesting though it might be.
-
- Paul your remark
-
- Arguing with Jack Sarfatti is a bit like shoveling manure in a barn
- full of horses. No matter how much you shovel today there will be just
- as much to shovel tomorrow. It is not that Jack is unintelligent or does
- not know physics. It is just that he is extremely careless. He seems to
- confuse lack of scientific discipline with scientific adventurousness.
- They are not the same thing. Scientific adventurousness is impossible
- without scientific discipline.
-
- is not calculated to evoke a cool rational response. I will answer you in
- detail later - but you are covering up your basic confusion. True one needed
- to change relative polarizer settings to see the (cos@)^2/2 correlation
- which violated Bell's inequality - but you do not have to do it as a
- dynamical process in time. It is enough to do what Aspect dis - switch the
- polarizer orientations in a time short compared to flight times of each
- photon in pair from source to polarizer-detector to ensure a space-like
- interval between both measurements of each photon in same pair. Your delay
- corresponding to time it takes one of the photons to move from its polarizer
- to its detector is not important. If you looked at my diagram you would see
- what I mean - maybe. I still say you are dealing with an illusion. More
- later when I read your latest post in detail.
-