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- From: crb7q@kelvin.seas.Virginia.EDU (Cameron Randale Bass)
- Subject: Re: Dale Bass on The Good, the Bad, and The Bogus
- Message-ID: <1992Dec24.072846.11315@murdoch.acc.Virginia.EDU>
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- Date: Thu, 24 Dec 1992 07:28:46 GMT
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- In article <Bzqt7u.4pA@well.sf.ca.us> sarfatti@well.sf.ca.us (Jack Sarfatti) writes:
- >
- >He also wrote in response to your press release about Uri Geller
- > "Note the clear implication in Sarfatti's release that having his
- > doctorate in physics made him specially qualified to rule out
- > deception". The whole tone of the article is skeptical, and some
- > of the things you have stated above are actually quoted in the
- > article as your own words, the rest are portrayed as your
- > ideas, not Gardner's. I wouldn't say the article is any kind
- > of stunning validation.
- >
- > dale bass
- >I never implied that Gardner's article is anything but skeptical - where
- >did I say it was a stunning validation? But Gardner is careful to hedge
- >with his remark that if I am right I would be one of the greatest physicists
- >of all time - not what he would say of an obvious crackpot. Was Bethe,
-
- The point is that the article is not complimentary. You took
- what you quoted out of context. From the tone of the article,
- I don't think Gardner would think he had hedged at all. Maybe you
- or I should write him and ask.
-
- >Morrison, Salpeter, Brueckner, Cummings and my many other professors who
- >examined me and granted three degrees in physics BA Cornel 1960, MS physics
- >1967, Ph.D physics 1969 - were they too busy with their research to properly
- >teach and examine? That's the only implication - I'll burn my degrees if
- >they return their salaries for the years I sat at their feet - not to
- >mention Bohm and Salam who had me come to Trieste etc.
-
- Just curious. Why do you think that sitting at the metaphorical feet of
- Bethe, say, has anything to do with anything? You seem to say
- stuff like that frequently. Why?
-
- Do you not think the force of your own arguments compelling
- enough?
-
- >No, the situation is not that simple. My point about Gardner's article is
- >that I was an obscure asst prof at San Diego State until I became a
- >useful idiot of un-named intelligence agencies - a pawn in a vast
- >geo-political game - some of the spooks revealed themselves to me in the
- >mid-80's.
-
- Where's alt.conspiracy when you need it? (not in the header, good,
- I'll put it there). Somehow, pawn is not the position in which
- I envision you.
-
- > Gardner was part of this covert intelligence operation because
- >his article, more than any other factor, put me "in the thick of it" -
-
- It appears that you put yourself in the 'thick of it', from
- the point of view of a casual observer. You know, you'd think
- after so many years, that Mr. Geller would have come up with
- the definitive way to demonstrate his 'powers' beyond all
- doubt.
-
- >to quote British Intelligence agent Dennis Bardens in a remark to me
- >in Blue Boar Inn Cambridge UK spring of 74' the full remark was
- >"Dr. Sarfatti, it is my duty to inform you of a psychic war raging across
- >the continents between the Soviet Union and your country and you are to be
- >in the thick of it." It was no accident that shortly afet I received large
- >sums of money from Werner Erhard and started a program at Esalen that
- >finally let to Sid Coleman and Lenny Susskind havinf Feynman, Hawking, Gell
- >Mann, Finkelstein and many others come to meetings with Werner Erhard - the
- >elite of physics accepted money and favors from Erhard - so if you bring
- >up Erhard you open a Pandora's Box in the physics community. More later
- >if there interest in this.
-
- Somehow I doubt it, he said dryly.
-
- dale bass
-
-
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- C. R. Bass crb7q@virginia.edu
- Department of Mechanical,
- Aerospace and Nuclear Engineering
- University of Virginia (804) 924-7926
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