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- From: jac@ds8.scri.fsu.edu (Jim Carr)
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- Subject: Re: When your sun forges iron...
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- Date: 23 Dec 92 04:51:55 GMT
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- In article <1h8b15INNgr6@terminator.rs.itd.umich.edu> metzler@pablo.physics.lsa.umich.edu (Chris Metzler) writes:
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- < regarding whether Fe-56 fission drives a supernova >
-
- >In Supernovae of Type II, when the core burns to iron, it is no longer possible
- >to support the mass above by nuclear processes, and the core collapses.
- >This contraction results in very high temperatures and a lot of energetic
- >photons. For a Type II supernova, the iron core is above the Chandrasekhar
- >limit, meaning that electron degeneracy pressure is not sufficient to
- >support the mass of the star. The matter can thus infall until the core is
- >so hot and the photons so energetic that iron nuclei can photodisintegrate into
- >He nuclei and neutrons. This is not, strictly speaking, what we normally
- >think of when someone says "fission," but the iron nonetheless does break
- >down into smaller elements.
-
- Exactly, as I think I sketched in my post. Certainly some of the iron
- could photodisintegrate, some could even be struck by a very fast
- neutron and be broken apart in a spallation reaction, but neither
- would be called fission by a physicist. I would also differ with
- the implication in the original post that this is the dominant process
- for driving the supernova, as I think your post makes clear also.
- The dominant mechanism is loss of energy production, not loss due to
- fission, followed by collapse if the mass exceeds the Chandrasekar limit
- so that the electrons cannot hold it up against gravity. At that
- point, all sorts of interesting nuclear physics occurs, a lot of
- which involves electron capture leading to a neutron excess -- very
- important if we are to have the heavy elements that are formed
- during this time. Certainly some Fe does break down, but this is
- irrelevant once the superclusters form just prior to the bounce.
- If this was the dominant process, there would be no heavy nuclei.
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