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- From: zeleny@husc10.harvard.edu (Michael Zeleny)
- Newsgroups: sci.philosophy.tech,sci.math
- Subject: Re: Numbers and sets
- Message-ID: <1992Dec28.194652.18875@husc3.harvard.edu>
- Date: 29 Dec 92 00:46:51 GMT
- References: <Bzsrvt.167@umassd.edu> <1992Dec28.155555.21505@guinness.idbsu.edu> <BzzHDI.2Bv@umassd.edu>
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- In article <BzzHDI.2Bv@umassd.edu>
- pmsc13sg@UMASSD.EDU (Stephen Grossman) writes:
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- >In article <1992Dec28.155555.21505@guinness.idbsu.edu>,
- >holmes@opal.idbsu.edu (Randall Holmes) writes:
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- >>In article <Bzsrvt.167@umassd.edu>
- >>(Stephen Grossman) pmsc13sg@UMASSD.EDU writes:
- SG:
- >>>Is there a relationship between sets and Plato's Forms?
-
- RH:
- >>Plato's Forms were ideal exemplars of
- >>mundane objects; sets do not have this character (the set of all
- >>natural numbers is not a perfect natural number).
-
- SG:
- >Perhaps I should have asked about Kantian, subjective forms. I am starting
- >"Plato, Kant and Aristotle in Math" by Glenn Marcus (2nd Renaissance Books,
- >1991, audio) and should have some wisdom on math soon.
-
- Indeed, you should. Alas, you will not.
-
- You will not have any "wisdom on math" for the same reason you will
- not have any on "Kantian, subjective forms". The reason is that your
- hallowed sourses of holy Objectivism lie. There are no such things as
- subjective forms; moreover, Kantian philosophy is not concerned with
- the question of forms, period. End of this discourse.
-
- SG:
- >Marcus says scientists (excepting computer scientists w/info theory) use
- >only pre-20th century math and quotes a leading mathematician on the
- >impracticality of math. Comments?
-
- Sure thing, I will give you comments. Modern mathematics is widely
- used in physics, chemistry, and biology. Consequently, Marcus is a
- fraud or an ignoramus; most likely, he is both. You, on the other
- hand, are a tiresome, gullible fool. It takes all kinds.
-
- >================================================================================
- > "In that world, you'll be able to rise in the morning with the spirit
- >you had known in your childhood: that spirit of eagerness, adventure and cer-
- >tainty which comes from dealing with a rational universe."
- > AYN RAND
- >================================================================================
- >Stephen Grossman <PMSC13SG@UMASS.EDU>
- >================================================================================
-
- cordially,
- mikhail zeleny@husc.harvard.edu
- "Le cul des femmes est monotone comme l'esprit des hommes."
-