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- From: "david.r.wells" <drw@cbnewsg.cb.att.com>
- Subject: Re: Yamamoto? (was Re: Battleship Diplomacy)
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- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 17:20:49 GMT
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- From "david.r.wells" <drw@cbnewsg.cb.att.com>
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- In article <Bzo8Iu.Bq4@law7.DaytonOH.NCR.COM> "Gene A. Kennedy" <gak@n5abi.hou.tx.us> writes:
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- >"david.r.wells" <drw@cbnewsg.cb.att.com> writes:
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- >> I think you're thinking of the Taiho, not the Shinano. Shinano was kind
- >> of top heavy, what with her concrete flight deck and all, and she rolled
- >> over and sank, but she didn't explode to my knowledge.
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- >Well, I've seen several versions of what happened to the Shinano
- >so I looked it up. According to "Warships of the Japanese Imperial
- >Navy" US Naval Institute Press, ISBN 0-85368-151-1, the Shinano
- >was torpedoed 29 November 1944 by the Archerfish and sank ... "as
- >a result of uncontrolled flooding, the watertight doors for the
- >extensive sub-division having not been fitted". It also noted that
- >the flight deck had 3.15 inch armor, but nothing about concrete or
- >being top heavy.
- >
- Everything you say is true. The lack of watertight doors was a major factor
- in the sinking of the Shinano. However, I still think the ship was topheavy,
- and this contributed to (but was certainly not the sole cause of) her
- demise. Also contributing to the disaster were the untrained crew, and the
- captain who didn't slow down after taking the hits.
- I'm fairly certain that the Shinano's flight deck was at least partially
- concrete. Dulin and Garzke have a remarkable cross-section plan of the
- Shinano, so I can check that to confirm. Apparently, by late in the war,
- the Japanese were running short of steel, and therefore became quite
- adept at substituting concrete. I'll check my sources to confirm this.
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- David R. Wells
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- (who actually DOES read other books than just Dulin & Garzke)
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- DISCLAIMER: My opinions, not AT&Ts.
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