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- From: MR KR COMAN <bakc@giraffe.ru.ac.za>
- Subject: Re: WW2 BARRAGE
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- Date: Wed, 23 Dec 1992 17:17:22 GMT
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- From MR KR COMAN <bakc@giraffe.ru.ac.za>
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- In article <BzM9u7.MDr@law7.DaytonOH.NCR.COM> "patterson,george r" <patter@dasher.cc.bellcore.com> writes:
- >From: "patterson,george r" <patter@dasher.cc.bellcore.com>
- >Subject: Re: WW2 BARRAGE
- >Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 16:01:19 GMT
- >
- >From "patterson,george r" <patter@dasher.cc.bellcore.com>
- >
- >In article <BzH56M.B81@law7.DaytonOH.NCR.COM> fengxi@prancer.eche.ualberta.ca (Fengxi Zhou) writes:
- >>
- >>Do these balloons, nets, cables do any damage to modern low level strike
- >>aircraft, like f-15e and tornado? or better yet, f-117 and b-2? given the
- >>speed of those birds, i would guess the impact be quite serious, although
- >>the idea looks positively low-tech. might even hang a few claymore to enhance
- >>the effect. what do you think?
- >
- >What do you *think* the effect is going to be of hitting a 1" piece of
- >steel at hundreds of miles per hour? Low-tech doesn't mean ineffective.
- >The claymore idea is interesting, but the cables normally used are quite
- >heavy as it is. It probably wouldn't be worth it to make a balloon big
- >enough to hold up mines as well.
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- I'm not sure that BB's had cables of that diameter as a matter of
- course -- a fairly light quarter inch steel wire would do the job PROVIDED
- the plan of getting an a/c to hit it was merely the start of the fun.
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- The reading that I've picked up on this in the last week or so
- suggests that the UK concept early in the war was designed around the idea
- that once a bomber hit a cable, an explosive charge would sever the cable
- from both the balloon and the ground, immediately thereafter a drogue
- parachute would deploy causing (let's say) severe handling problems for the
- unfortunate pilot.
-
- Keep in mind too that the Germans fitted "cable cutting" devices to
- certain of their a/c (the He111 comes to mind); a heavy guage cable would
- require a quite powerful winding engine to operate its cable drum; and that
- all BB's needed to be periodically brought down for repair and regassing.
- This suggests that although really heavy cables make sense in special point-
- defense situations (e.g. vital factories), for the most part a flexible,
- opportunistic deployment was perhaps more common. Again, must stress that
- German and US equipment/tactics were probably quite different -- having
- 1" cables capable of stopping a B17 in its tracks for a dense BB coverage
- of (say) the Polesti oilfields makes perfect sense.
- Cheers,
- Keith Coman
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