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- From: davidy@seattleu.edu (Stimpson J. Cat)
- Subject: Re: Yamamoto? (was Re: Battleship Diplomacy)
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- Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 17:28:19 GMT
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- From davidy@seattleu.edu (Stimpson J. Cat)
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- In article <BzM9zy.MoM@law7.DaytonOH.NCR.COM> "david.r.wells" <drw@cbnewsg.cb.att.com> writes:
- >
- >>
- >I think you're thinking of the Taiho, not the Shinano. Shinano was kind
- >of top heavy, what with her concrete flight deck and all, and she rolled
- >over and sank, but she didn't explode to my knowledge.
- > By the way, Lexington was CV-2. Saratoga was CV-3.
- > For what it's worth, there was supposed to be a FOURTH Yamato as well.
- >She was given a hull number, (no. 111) but was not officially named, although
- >one source I read ages ago mentioned the name "Kii", which was a Japanese
- >BB name proposed for an Owari class BB after WWI. She was scrapped incomplete
- >after Midway.
- >
- > David R. Wells
- >
- >DISCLAIMER: My opinions, not AT&Ts.
- >
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- The Shinano capsized, but her loss was due chiefly to poor damage
- control and a lesser extent poor construction quality. The four torpedo hits
- by Archerfish, while serious, should not have imperiled a ship with the size
- and scale of protection the Shinano had. However, the welds were often poor
- due to the pressure exterted in delivering this ship, and many items, including
- four of the boilers, and firemains/drainage systems, were not installed or
- complete. Many holes made for wiring and pipes were not sealed, so the ship
- already had compromised integrity.
-
- When she took the hits, the captain did not reduce speed, so the
- water pressure caused even more damage in the areas opened by the torpedoes.
- The crew made few efforts to counter the damage initially. There were a great
- number of civilians aboard, who wore clothing similar to uniforms, so their
- refusal to obey orders added to the confusion. Eventually the crew lost
- discipline and they congregated on deck. Only 25% of the crew were saved.
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- The fourth Yamato, No.111, was scrapped 30 % complete in December
- 1941.
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- (references -primarily Gartzke and Dulin, Battleships.)
- David L. Yee
- email to:davidy@sumax.seattleu.edu
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